- Dec 26, 2015
I've stated my beliefs and am not willing to argue this.Thus the need for a Savior (a gatherer of lost sheep) so that their post-judgment punishment for their being in a sinful lost (ἀπόλλυμι apollymi) state now (in it's participle form) does not result in the completion of the path they are on (i.e. to it's noun form (destruction) when there's no one to gather them.
Is it your position that sinful hedonistic atheists get to live eternally in Hell in the same condition (lost) that they live in now?
Umm, I posted the meaning based on published work of Koine Greek scholars. You've misunderstood the difference between the verb and participle forms and it's noun form.
To study the meaning of destruction of the wicked in Hell.
You make a good point about the scope of the word's meaning. And the use of the Scriptures that translated the word as "lost" on this Earth is significant and per the rules of debate. I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned them until now.
But my question to you above is serious. And I have one more; why do no translations pick "lost" for the English translation of the final fate of the wicked in Hell? (Such as in Matt 10:28) If they are 'lost' now and 'lost' in Hell, wouldn't they be living the same lifestyle there as here? And doing so while enjoying their eternal lifestyle?
However, what do you mean by the above in blue?
Do you believe there's a different place for atheists and the "lost"?
Who are the "lost" then?
Do you believe the life of atheists and the loss just goes on?
And one last question:
If one just becomes annihilated, why would Jesus goes through so much just to make us understand why it's so important to get to heaven?
Does the fact that hell is eternals have anything to do with the answer, perhaps?
Some might even feel that if they could do WHATEVER THEY WANTED TO, and then just be annihilated at Death, it wouldn't seem like such a bad deal ![/QUOTE]
P.S. To clarify:
Do you believe there's one place for atheists
and a different place for the lost?
I might have just misunderstood you.