Featherbop
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What do you believe the truth to be, and you can say why if you want also.
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[_ Old Earth _] Which one in your opinion is true?
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SyntaxVorlon
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Evolution, no god.
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aamacgregor
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I should be doing work, but a small reply can't hurt 
What we see now, I believe to be:
Creation by God, in combination with adaptations, small changes, natuaral selection, etc
But it in its original form:
Creation by God, no evolution.
What we see now, I believe to be:
Creation by God, in combination with adaptations, small changes, natuaral selection, etc
But it in its original form:
Creation by God, no evolution.
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*AlwayzADreamer*
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Creation by God, no evolution at all
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mh13
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God created all without the help of evolution. If the creation account can't be taken literally, then how can we be sure that the virgin birth or the resurrection are only figurative?
You can't pick which parts of the Bible that you want to believe.[/url]
You can't pick which parts of the Bible that you want to believe.[/url]
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M82A1
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AND SCIENCE IS A TOOL OF DA DEVIL!!! Right?*AlwayzADreamer* said:
Welcome my friends, to the debate that never ends...
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SyntaxVorlon
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[kosh]It will end in Fire[/kosh]M82A1 said:
Featherbop
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creation by God.
Perfect originally, then the fall, the creation started wearing down afterwards. The processess that break it down are considered evolution.
reversed.
Creation by God, adaptive capabilities, survival of the fittist(natural selection), small changes that allow for variations within kinds, but not creating new kinds, etc.
NOTE: This is in noway evolution.
Perfect originally, then the fall, the creation started wearing down afterwards. The processess that break it down are considered evolution.
reversed.
Creation by God, adaptive capabilities, survival of the fittist(natural selection), small changes that allow for variations within kinds, but not creating new kinds, etc.
NOTE: This is in noway evolution.
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mettleking
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Definately, God created all in 6 literal (24 hour) days.
If we are to start to introduce any other thoughts on this question we are immediately beginning to question the validity of God's Word for the very first verse, chapter and book of the Bible.
The fact that God created a world that was complete and was without sin is essential to the bilbical view of our need of salvation. What if God did not completely finish His work in 6 days, and it took extra time for God to get it right (remembering that after each day of creation God looked at it and said that it was GOOD!). What if God "started the ball rolling" and evolution finished the job?
We would have had death and destruction going on in the world before it could be considered "good" by God. It does not just make any sense. You do not need science for this logic to malke sense.
If we are to start to introduce any other thoughts on this question we are immediately beginning to question the validity of God's Word for the very first verse, chapter and book of the Bible.
The fact that God created a world that was complete and was without sin is essential to the bilbical view of our need of salvation. What if God did not completely finish His work in 6 days, and it took extra time for God to get it right (remembering that after each day of creation God looked at it and said that it was GOOD!). What if God "started the ball rolling" and evolution finished the job?
We would have had death and destruction going on in the world before it could be considered "good" by God. It does not just make any sense. You do not need science for this logic to malke sense.
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yanjy
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Creation of organisms by God through evolution. Populations that evolve are more likely to survive than populations that dont when faced with a change that threatens them, so why would God make his "kinds" in a static state that almost guarantee's their extinction?
Featherbop
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But in the beggining, was it neccesary? The adaptions, and small changes, and natural selection, maybe these processes were created after the fall?
So, I think that maybe the 'evolution' that happens today was the effect of the fall?
Because in the beggining, there was perfection, no 'evolution' was needed.
So, I think that maybe the 'evolution' that happens today was the effect of the fall?
Because in the beggining, there was perfection, no 'evolution' was needed.
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No way!
No way Jose'!!! That batch of mess just don't jive!
evolution is not science,it's a religion that wants people to believe it's science so it can stay in the public school's and colleges while the American tax payers have to fund it. Evolution is a desperate attempt to twist true science and force people to accept it because it has snuck into the school system. It's taught by the worldly who love to claim they are so much more educated,ect... you should here their jargon,don't even get into it with these individuals,besides atheists won't be here much longer,the AC and one world religion will take care of that soon enough.
Look up all the scientists who were and still are against evolution.
Lord Kelvin the founder of the 2nd law of thermodynamics was a creationist and a true christian who believed in a young earth. Watch out for the evolutionists,they like to call us yecs!!!
I don't believe in TOE but I'd love to kick it with a foot!!!
Evolution is a pagan false religion. It's a religious belief and has nothing to do with true science.
What does the bible teach us about itchy ears and turning to fables in the last days?
Watch out,next they will tell you that Harry Potter is all true too!
they love to call people stupid if you weren't trained up in evolution as they were so be careful folks.
No way Jose'!!! That batch of mess just don't jive!
evolution is not science,it's a religion that wants people to believe it's science so it can stay in the public school's and colleges while the American tax payers have to fund it. Evolution is a desperate attempt to twist true science and force people to accept it because it has snuck into the school system. It's taught by the worldly who love to claim they are so much more educated,ect... you should here their jargon,don't even get into it with these individuals,besides atheists won't be here much longer,the AC and one world religion will take care of that soon enough.
Look up all the scientists who were and still are against evolution.
Lord Kelvin the founder of the 2nd law of thermodynamics was a creationist and a true christian who believed in a young earth. Watch out for the evolutionists,they like to call us yecs!!!
I don't believe in TOE but I'd love to kick it with a foot!!!
Evolution is a pagan false religion. It's a religious belief and has nothing to do with true science.
What does the bible teach us about itchy ears and turning to fables in the last days?
Watch out,next they will tell you that Harry Potter is all true too!
they love to call people stupid if you weren't trained up in evolution as they were so be careful folks.
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SyntaxVorlon
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I'm not sure what category you fall under, bel; idiot, troll, fundamentalist wall of ignorance, etc. All of these apply but you really take the cake. Strawmen, misinterpretations of facts, positing out and out lies. That takes a lot of something most people don't want.
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the evolution of the big booty bang
at least you have the gutts to admit what you are finally,so precious,lets clear things up for you,I know what you say and what you do,and they are not the same thing.You lure people in a game of,Let me teach you all the subjects you should have learned in school but didn't,and I'm greater than you are because I have been taught evolution and I use it to get what I want in life because to admit who I really am to the world could cause people to reject me.
Grow up!
There is a price to pay for sin and wrong doing and the sooner you get over your fears and face this issue,the better off you will be,amen.
God is not going to bow down to you,every knee shall bow down to him.
The created is not better than the creator!!! Understand?
God don't believe in evolution or in atheists!
Read the book of Job. :B-fly:
at least you have the gutts to admit what you are finally,so precious,lets clear things up for you,I know what you say and what you do,and they are not the same thing.You lure people in a game of,Let me teach you all the subjects you should have learned in school but didn't,and I'm greater than you are because I have been taught evolution and I use it to get what I want in life because to admit who I really am to the world could cause people to reject me.
Grow up!
There is a price to pay for sin and wrong doing and the sooner you get over your fears and face this issue,the better off you will be,amen.
God is not going to bow down to you,every knee shall bow down to him.
The created is not better than the creator!!! Understand?
God don't believe in evolution or in atheists!
Read the book of Job. :B-fly:
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Arnold Philips
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Re: No way!
That's a nice theory, but I would be hard-pressed to actually find any evidence for it other than personal conviction. Evolution is neither a religion nor a vast scientific conspiracy against God. Think of how silly that sounds: A vast scientific conspiracy against God.blueeyeliner said:
Again. These are nothing more than pure conjecture and personal fantasy.
There are very few of them. This is a creationists myth. Ever since the advent of evolutionary theory, scientists have been abandoning creationism not unlike a sinking ship.
That doesn't mean anything. Lots of people believe in evolution, and lots of people don't. This alone doesn't make the claims of each theory more or less valid.
Well, that's pretty fair seeing as that's what you are. A young earth creationist. Speaking of young earth, it's worth noting that the first creationists were by and large old earth, and that the creationist movement was splintered into various groups, most mutually exclusive.
Why? Evolution has done a lot for you: modern medicine and computer programming just to name a couple. On the other hand, creationism has done nothing for you other than reinforce a debilitating sense of self-righteousness.
Tell us, please. What is 'pagan false religion' and 'true science' and how exactly does the theory of evolution qualify as the first and not qualify as the second?
The Bible verse you are talking about isn't referring to science, but referring to doctrinal teachings.
Please. Evolution has nothing to do with magic, and if anyone would be espousing Harry Potter as fact, it would be the religious.
Evolution is a tricky subject for most because it actually involves thinking and some more difficult concepts. For this reason, people like to characterize it as "monkeys --> humans" or something inane like that. If you wish to engage and scrutinize evolution, it would be best for you to actually learn what evolution is. Otherwise, you will not be effective in this pursuit.
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Re: No way!
:o Evolution is in many modern churches today,and many christians do accept it today. I do not.
I don't think that I'd be hard pressed to find other christians like myself who are scientists at all.
There may not be any later on after the rapture,true.
Science is not the issue and I am not against science.
You are free to believe it is.
When did I ever say there was a scientific conspiracy against God?
http://www.absolutetruth.net/creation/
http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org
http://www.douknow.net/ev_unmaskingthef ... lution.htm
http://www.creationscience.com
http://www.douknow.net/evolutioncreationmain.htm
This was an old argument you brought back up. I may not understand every single detail about evolution,but I have had plenty of debate on the subject. If you believe in it,this is your choice,but the argument you bring up now is very old. I have moved past it. I do not believe in evolution,but I like some people who do.
:o Evolution is in many modern churches today,and many christians do accept it today. I do not.
I don't think that I'd be hard pressed to find other christians like myself who are scientists at all.
There may not be any later on after the rapture,true.
Science is not the issue and I am not against science.
You are free to believe it is.
When did I ever say there was a scientific conspiracy against God?
http://www.absolutetruth.net/creation/
http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org
http://www.douknow.net/ev_unmaskingthef ... lution.htm
http://www.creationscience.com
http://www.douknow.net/evolutioncreationmain.htm
This was an old argument you brought back up. I may not understand every single detail about evolution,but I have had plenty of debate on the subject. If you believe in it,this is your choice,but the argument you bring up now is very old. I have moved past it. I do not believe in evolution,but I like some people who do.
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Pagan religion
:Fade-color Pagan religion is all religious beliefs that came from Pagan ancient Babylon and many if not all have crept into many of the churches we have today. They are also at the root of occults,sects,and cults.
:Fade-color Pagan religion is all religious beliefs that came from Pagan ancient Babylon and many if not all have crept into many of the churches we have today. They are also at the root of occults,sects,and cults.