Who then can be SAVED???

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Hello Family of God,

We're living in perilous times where evil and iniquity is rising at an unprecedented rate; exactly as it was foretold by Prophecy. Not only are the number of apostates among leaders in Christianity increasing; there now exists many doctrines of demons, which are substituting the Truth of Holy Scripture with teachings that feed off of the pride of man's heart. The most common ones coming to the fore are Salvation by works (i.e., "Salvation is achieved by works, or [good] deeds") -- and the false doctrine which teaches that every human will eventually be saved because love wins in the end; regardless if you are an unrepentant sinner, sexually immoral, an unbeliever, and even a pagan -- but is this what the Holy Scripture says?

"For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because [WE TRUST IN THE LIVING GOD], who is [THE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN] (Grk. soter panton anthropon; i.e., "all in the literal sense, and NOT all kinds of men"), [SPECIALLY OF THOSE THAT BELIEVE] (Grk. malista piston)." (1 Timothy 4:8-10)

The Biblical passage cited directly above has been misinterpreted by MANY Bible teachers, Scholars, Pastors, and students of the Word of God, when they fail to apply the CORRECT principles of Biblical interpretation: Systematic theology, Perspicuity of Scripture, Exegesis, Hermeneutics, and its Cultural/Historical/Literary CONTEXT. EVERY word in Sacred Scripture must be taken into account, including verb tenses (cf. Matt. 4:4; 2 Tim. 2:15; 3:16-17; 2 Pet. 1:2-4). Several interpretations have been given to reconcile its understanding in light of the Totality of the Word of God.

• - Universalism (i.e., "All human beings will eventually be reconciled to God")
• - Common Grace (cf. Gen. 2:16-17; 3:1-19; Rom. 6:23; 7:22-24; 1 Cor. 15:22; Heb. 2:14-15)
• - All "kinds" or "types" of people (e.g., "kings, ethnic groups, slaves, etc." -- cf. 1 Tim. 2:1-3)
• - There is ONLY ONE SAVIOR, and ONLY ONE NAME under heaven given among men by which we must be saved; it is ONLY through the Lord Jesus Christ, and His Atoning death/shed Blood on the Cross for MANY for the remission of sins, can anyone be saved (see Matt. 7:13-14; Jn. 10:7-8; 14:6; Acts 4:12)

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and [MANY] there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and [FEW] there be that find it." (Matthew 7:13-14)

Based on these reasons, which interpretation would be the correct understanding of the passage? Everyone ought to know that if Jesus Christ shed His Precious Blood for MANY, then this would imply that His Sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins was not shed for ALL; because if this were to be the case, then ALL mankind (i.e., "past, present, and future") would be saved -- including Judas Iscariot; and all of us ought to know that this is NOT what the Infallible and Inerrant Word of God tells us. It should be clear to anyone that there will be MANY who will be condemned to Hell and the Eternal Lake of Fire (i.e., "the BROAD way which leads to Eternal ruin"). MANY, in both the Salvation and the Condemnation of men/women is to be determined by its context; in like manner, the Precious Blood of the Lamb of God was shed for MANY -- not ALL, and only a few find it (cf. Matt. 26:28; Lk. 13:25-27; Rom. 5:19; Heb. 9:25).

"These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. [AND THIS IS LIFE ETERNAL], that they might know thee [THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST], whom thou hast sent." (John 17:1-3)

In Closing:

"And he said unto me, [IT IS DONE] (Grk. gegonan -- perfect active indicative; i.e., "these promises, which is a future event, have ALREADY come to pass in the Eternal Plan and Mind of God"). I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. [HE THAT OVERCOMETH] (Grk. ho nikon -- present active participle; i.e., "Genuine Christians will overcome, and will continue to overcome all trials in this passing world" -- cf. Jn. 16:33; 1 Jn. 5:4) shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:6-8)

There is ONLY ONE SAVIOR (i.e., "the Savior of All men") to turn to for Salvation and Deliverance from sin and Eternal Judgment (i.e., "Jesus is the Door" -- cf. Jn. 10:9-16) -- and all other religions will ultimately lead to spiritual death. Those who have been cleansed by the Precious Blood of the Lamb of God -- and have placed their FAITH and TRUST in Him Alone for their Salvation (i.e., "because there is no other Savior"), will be delivered from the Coming Wrath of Almighty God (i.e., "WE TRUST IN THE LIVING GOD"). To possess [ETERNAL LIFE] is to KNOW the One TRUE GOD (i.e., "as opposed to the MANY FALSE gods") -- and Jesus Christ as our ONLY Savior.

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." (Revelation 22:13-15)

[I AM]

1. [The Father] Alpha and Omega
2. [The Son] the Beginning and the End
3. [The Holy Spirit] the First and the Last

"And the Spirit and the bride say, [COME]. And let him that heareth say, [COME]. And let him that is athirst [COME]. And whosoever will, [LET HIM TAKE THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY]." (Revelation 22:17)

This is the Last chapter in the Bible, and all Three persons of the Triune Godhead beckons anyone who THIRSTS for Eternal Life to receive it FREELY by the Grace of God to all those who will receive it with Faith (i.e., "God speaking through His Spirit inspired Words in Sacred Scripture"). Tomorrow is never a guarantee to anyone, and the greatest priority in life is to be reconciled to God; because everyone will one day breathe their last breath, and exhale their spirit. Then immediately will the slaves of God escort you to one of two places (i.e., "Hell, and finally to the Eternal Lake of Fire; or to the Paradise of God").

God Bless!!!

 

[Shekinahglory]

Based on these reasons, which interpretation would be the correct understanding of the passage? Everyone ought to know that if Jesus Christ shed His Precious Blood for MANY, then this would imply that His Sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins was not shed for ALL; because if this were to be the case, then ALL mankind (i.e., "past, present, and future") would be saved -- including Judas Iscariot; and all of us ought to know that this is NOT what the Infallible and Inerrant Word of God tells us. It should be clear to anyone that there will be MANY who will be condemned to Hell and the Eternal Lake of Fire (i.e., "the BROAD way which leads to Eternal ruin"). MANY, in both the Salvation and the Condemnation of men/women is to be determined by its context; in like manner, the Precious Blood of the Lamb of God was shed for MANY -- not ALL, and only a few find it (cf. Matt. 26:28; Lk. 13:25-27; Rom. 5:19; Heb. 9:25).
The Lord did shed His blood in sacrifice for everyone. The reason it speaks as it does is not all men have or will accept the free gift of faith. The many condemned to hell is more of a self-condemnation because they refuse to enter by the Door. The Door, Jesus Christ is the narrow way and there is only one narrow entrance and it is found in an empty tomb and a resurrected Christ. The wide way is easy to see its the whole wide world. This world and all the systems she runs on where created by Cain and his children when in their rebellion they stopped being pilgrims and aliens and settled the world. I have to chuckle at the irony of the wide and narrow ways and what did Cain did He built a city. Expecting lots of company through the wide way I guess.

 

[for_his_glory]

The narrow path is lit by the light of Christ who leads us down the path of righteousness, Psalms 23:3.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Whosoever believes, as Christ died for all that they may have life by God's grace and faith which is Christ Jesus, Ephesians 2:8.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

All are given the chance to be saved if they would just humble themselves before the Lord admitting they are sinners needing God's grace.

 

[JLB]

Hello Family of God,

We're living in perilous times where evil and iniquity is rising at an unprecedented rate; exactly as it was foretold by Prophecy. Not only are the number of apostates among leaders in Christianity increasing; there now exists many doctrines of demons, which are substituting the Truth of Holy Scripture with teachings that feed off of the pride of man's heart. The most common ones coming to the fore are Salvation by works (i.e., "Salvation is achieved by works, or [good] deeds") -- and the false doctrine which teaches that every human will eventually be saved because love wins in the end; regardless if you are an unrepentant sinner, sexually immoral, an unbeliever, and even a pagan -- but is this what the Holy Scripture says?

"For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation. For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because [WE TRUST IN THE LIVING GOD], who is [THE SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN] (Grk. soter panton anthropon; i.e., "all in the literal sense, and NOT all kinds of men"), [SPECIALLY OF THOSE THAT BELIEVE] (Grk. malista piston)." (1 Timothy 4:8-10)

The Biblical passage cited directly above has been misinterpreted by MANY Bible teachers, Scholars, Pastors, and students of the Word of God, when they fail to apply the CORRECT principles of Biblical interpretation: Systematic theology, Perspicuity of Scripture, Exegesis, Hermeneutics, and its Cultural/Historical/Literary CONTEXT. EVERY word in Sacred Scripture must be taken into account, including verb tenses (cf. Matt. 4:4; 2 Tim. 2:15; 3:16-17; 2 Pet. 1:2-4). Several interpretations have been given to reconcile its understanding in light of the Totality of the Word of God.

• - Universalism (i.e., "All human beings will eventually be reconciled to God")
• - Common Grace (cf. Gen. 2:16-17; 3:1-19; Rom. 6:23; 7:22-24; 1 Cor. 15:22; Heb. 2:14-15)
• - All "kinds" or "types" of people (e.g., "kings, ethnic groups, slaves, etc." -- cf. 1 Tim. 2:1-3)
• - There is ONLY ONE SAVIOR, and ONLY ONE NAME under heaven given among men by which we must be saved; it is ONLY through the Lord Jesus Christ, and His Atoning death/shed Blood on the Cross for MANY for the remission of sins, can anyone be saved (see Matt. 7:13-14; Jn. 10:7-8; 14:6; Acts 4:12)

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and [MANY] there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and [FEW] there be that find it." (Matthew 7:13-14)

Based on these reasons, which interpretation would be the correct understanding of the passage? Everyone ought to know that if Jesus Christ shed His Precious Blood for MANY, then this would imply that His Sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins was not shed for ALL; because if this were to be the case, then ALL mankind (i.e., "past, present, and future") would be saved -- including Judas Iscariot; and all of us ought to know that this is NOT what the Infallible and Inerrant Word of God tells us. It should be clear to anyone that there will be MANY who will be condemned to Hell and the Eternal Lake of Fire (i.e., "the BROAD way which leads to Eternal ruin"). MANY, in both the Salvation and the Condemnation of men/women is to be determined by its context; in like manner, the Precious Blood of the Lamb of God was shed for MANY -- not ALL, and only a few find it (cf. Matt. 26:28; Lk. 13:25-27; Rom. 5:19; Heb. 9:25).

"These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. [AND THIS IS LIFE ETERNAL], that they might know thee [THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST], whom thou hast sent." (John 17:1-3)

In Closing:

"And he said unto me, [IT IS DONE] (Grk. gegonan -- perfect active indicative; i.e., "these promises, which is a future event, have ALREADY come to pass in the Eternal Plan and Mind of God"). I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. [HE THAT OVERCOMETH] (Grk. ho nikon -- present active participle; i.e., "Genuine Christians will overcome, and will continue to overcome all trials in this passing world" -- cf. Jn. 16:33; 1 Jn. 5:4) shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:6-8)

There is ONLY ONE SAVIOR (i.e., "the Savior of All men") to turn to for Salvation and Deliverance from sin and Eternal Judgment (i.e., "Jesus is the Door" -- cf. Jn. 10:9-16) -- and all other religions will ultimately lead to spiritual death. Those who have been cleansed by the Precious Blood of the Lamb of God -- and have placed their FAITH and TRUST in Him Alone for their Salvation (i.e., "because there is no other Savior"), will be delivered from the Coming Wrath of Almighty God (i.e., "WE TRUST IN THE LIVING GOD"). To possess [ETERNAL LIFE] is to KNOW the One TRUE GOD (i.e., "as opposed to the MANY FALSE gods") -- and Jesus Christ as our ONLY Savior.

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." (Revelation 22:13-15)

[I AM]

1. [The Father] Alpha and Omega
2. [The Son] the Beginning and the End
3. [The Holy Spirit] the First and the Last

"And the Spirit and the bride say, [COME]. And let him that heareth say, [COME]. And let him that is athirst [COME]. And whosoever will, [LET HIM TAKE THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY]." (Revelation 22:17)

This is the Last chapter in the Bible, and all Three persons of the Triune Godhead beckons anyone who THIRSTS for Eternal Life to receive it FREELY by the Grace of God to all those who will receive it with Faith (i.e., "God speaking through His Spirit inspired Words in Sacred Scripture"). Tomorrow is never a guarantee to anyone, and the greatest priority in life is to be reconciled to God; because everyone will one day breathe their last breath, and exhale their spirit. Then immediately will the slaves of God escort you to one of two places (i.e., "Hell, and finally to the Eternal Lake of Fire; or to the Paradise of God").

God Bless!!!

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Thanks JLB

 

[LovethroughDove]

Hi. I wouldn't have known there was a narrow path and few find it if he hadn't found me. The world thinks most people go to heaven and that simply isn't the case.

 

[Bull of the Woods]

Whomsoever believes.
But it is not a simple "believe" like a kid believes in Santa. It is a profound belief that we can't work up in our own power or mental capacity.
I think it is available to all, but not all come to have that salvation by grace through faith.
God is not like those car dealers that puts a deal in the newspaper and when you get there you find out that was for one specific car and you can't get that deal.
He is no shyster.
His offer is extended to all and I will be darned if I will accept that from all eternity past it wasn't really a valid offer to all.
But I am not a very deep theologian.

 

[Randy]

I think the tree is still bearing fruit for God. I don't find perilous times. It's peaceful out. The sun is shining. The truth is still freely and openly preached. At least in our country.
The beginning of birth pains.
Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.

There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26 People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.

 

[for_his_glory]

Whomsoever believes.
But it is not a simple "believe" like a kid believes in Santa. It is a profound belief that we can't work up in our own power or mental capacity.
I think it is available to all, but not all come to have that salvation by grace through faith.
God is not like those car dealers that puts a deal in the newspaper and when you get there you find out that was for one specific car and you can't get that deal.
He is no shyster.
His offer is extended to all and I will be darned if I will accept that from all eternity past it wasn't really a valid offer to all.
But I am not a very deep theologian.

It is a simple belief as just like a child we accept Jesus as Lord and Savior just like a child believes in Santa. We can't rationalize it or put it under a microscope, we just accept it.

John 3: 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

This whosoever are everyone who hears God calling them that we believe beginning with a very simple faith which is Christ Jesus.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

God's free gift of grace is unmerited favor given to whosoever will believe that Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God. Christ Jesus is our faith we build upon as it starts out as the size of a mustard seed and matures the more we draw closer to Him. All of us started out with a small amount of belief without not much understanding of faith that is God's grace. We are all whosoever that have heard Him calling us, but many refuse to hear.