Yesterday's peace treaty signing

[JLB]

According to John who is the only person in the Bible to use the term antichrist,an antichrist is someone who denies Jesus is the Christ. John also said there were many Antichrists in his day.
Daniel never says the King of the north is an antichrist, nor does Daniel say the king of the north denies Jesus before men. So for all we know, this king if the north may claim to be a Christian even though it's obvious he isn't. But there are many leaders who claim to be Christian who are not. A politician will say about anything for a vote.
This leader seems to be no different, he's a lier.

Daniel 11:27 - Kings of the South and North

And the two kings, with their hearts bent on evil, will speak lies at the same table, but to no avail, for still the end will come at the appointed time.

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Here is what John actually said about the Antichrist.


Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 1 John 2:18


Paul, in quoting from Daniel said this —


Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4


Daniel:

• He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. Daniel 11:36

Paul:

• who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped

The antichrist like the True Christ, is referred to by many names.


son of perdition
the man of sin
the lawless one
The prince who is to come
The Antichrist
the little horn
the king of the North
The beast


These all refer to the same person.


Likewise Jesus Christ has many names that refer specifically to Him.

Alpha and Omega
Lamb of God
Prince of peace
Mighty God
Wonderful
Counselor
Savior
Messiah
The Lord
Master




JLB

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Here is what John actually said about the Antichrist.


Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 1 John 2:18


Paul, in quoting from Daniel said this —


Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4


Daniel:

• He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. Daniel 11:36

Paul:

• who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped

The antichrist like the True Christ, is referred to by many names.


son of perdition
the man of sin
the lawless one
The prince who is to come
The Antichrist
the little horn
the king of the North
The beast


These all refer to the same person.


Likewise Jesus Christ has many names that refer specifically to Him.

Alpha and Omega
Lamb of God
Prince of peace
Mighty God
Wonderful
Counselor
Savior
Messiah
The Lord
Master




JLB

Yes, neither Paul nor Daniel used the term antichrist as I said. Only John used the term.
Now as for Daniel saying the king of the north exalts himself above all, it appears this man thinks highly of himself. He probably believes he has great and unmatched wisdom. He may even claim to be the chosen one.
But Daniel never calls him an antichrist nor this man claim to be antichrist. As most northern countries leaders call themselves christian, he probably does the same.
It obvious that he believes he is better than everyone else. A sure sign of a narcissist.

 

[LovethroughDove]

Actually he is honoring that “god” with gold and silver.


This would indicate he is deeply religious, caring about his “god” more that his gold and silver.



JLB

It seems like a golden calf reference. Like, he is the head of creating a false god to worship.

Instead of a living God, a material god.

Psalm 51:16-17 You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.

With this conversation, I found the kind of sacrifice God is looking for in the Psalm above. Maybe this king puts an end to this kind of sacrificing?

 

[JLB]

Yes, neither Paul nor Daniel used the term antichrist as I said. Only John used the term.
Now as for Daniel saying the king of the north exalts himself above all, it appears this man thinks highly of himself. He probably believes he has great and unmatched wisdom. He may even claim to be the chosen one.
But Daniel never calls him an antichrist nor this man claim to be antichrist. As most northern countries leaders call themselves christian, he probably does the same.
It obvious that he believes he is better than everyone else. A sure sign of a narcissist.

Isaiah never refers to Him as Messiah, yet we know from the whole counsel of God that this refers to the Messiah.


For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6



Likewise even though Daniel and Paul and John refer to the false messiah or antichrist as:

son of perdition
the man of sin
the lawless one
The prince who is to come
The Antichrist
the little horn
the king of the North
The beast



If you didn’t know this, now you know.




JLB

 

[JLB]

With this conversation, I found the kind of sacrifice God is looking for in the Psalm above. Maybe this king puts an end to this kind of sacrificing?

This king or ruler puts an end to animal sacrifice and offer in the soon to come Temple in Jerusalem.



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[ezrider]

Isaiah never refers to Him as Messiah, yet we know from the whole counsel of God that this refers to the Messiah.


For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6



Likewise even though Daniel and Paul and John refer to the false messiah or antichrist as:

son of perdition
the man of sin
the lawless one
The prince who is to come
The Antichrist
the little horn
the king of the North
The beast



If you didn’t know this, now you know.




JLB

But the little horn was also called the horn of our salvation!

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Isaiah never refers to Him as Messiah, yet we know from the whole counsel of God that this refers to the Messiah.


For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6



Likewise even though Daniel and Paul and John refer to the false messiah or antichrist as:

son of perdition
the man of sin
the lawless one
The prince who is to come
The Antichrist
the little horn
the king of the North
The beast



If you didn’t know this, now you know.




JLB

You don't seem to understand the difference between them.
The beast attacks the king of the north at the time of the end.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

This king or ruler puts an end to animal sacrifice and offer in the soon to come Temple in Jerusalem.



JLB

You are living in the past.
When Daniel wrote his prophecy he was telling what would happen in the future, not the past.
Daniel never says Israel will be killing sheep and offering them to God at the time of the end.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

It seems like a golden calf reference. Like, he is the head of creating a false god to worship.

Instead of a living God, a material god.

Psalm 51:16-17 You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.

With this conversation, I found the kind of sacrifice God is looking for in the Psalm above. Maybe this king puts an end to this kind of sacrificing?

I remember about ten years ago I read an article of an Israeli mother who took her children and moved to the US. She said she didn't want to sacrifice her children.
At the age of 18,all Israeli children are to be given to the Israeli government to serve thier government.
The semetic word for king is Molock.

Amos 5:26 NIV: You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god -- which you made for yourselves.

I say she is a good mother.

 

[JLB]

But the little horn was also called the horn of our salvation!

No sir!

And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land. And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them. He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down. Because of transgression, an army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily sacrifices; and he cast truth down to the ground. He did all this and prospered. Daniel 8:9-12




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[JLB]

You don't seem to understand the difference between them.
The beast attacks the king of the north at the time of the end.

Please use scripture. Chapter and verse with context.

 

[JLB]

You are living in the past.
When Daniel wrote his prophecy he was telling what would happen in the future, not the past.
Daniel never says Israel will be killing sheep and offering them to God at the time of the end.

Yes Daniel refers to sacrifices again after the city and san are destroyed.


“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

Temple destroyed in 70 AD

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.” Daniel 9:26-27



The new temple is coming soon.




JLB

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Please use scripture. Chapter and verse with context.

The attack takes place just before the resurrection. The beast attacks the king of the norths armed forces stationed in Jerusalem.

Daniel 11:40 - The King Who Exalts Himself

At the time of the end, the king of the South will engage him in battle, but the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots, horsemen, and many ships, invading many countries and sweeping through them like a flood.

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Revelation 11:7 KJV: And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

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[Shilohsfoal]

Yes Daniel refers to sacrifices again after the city and san are destroyed.


“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

Temple destroyed in 70 AD

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.” Daniel 9:26-27



The new temple is coming soon.




JLB

Israelis already offer themselves as sacrifice to thier government.
Daniel doesnt say this sacrifice has anything to do with cattle, goats, or sheep..
You don't know what sacrifice Daniel is talking about.

 

[LovethroughDove]

This king or ruler puts an end to animal sacrifice and offer in the soon to come Temple in Jerusalem.



JLB

Does this mean they will start up animal sacrifice again?

 

[JLB]

Does this mean they will start up animal sacrifice again?

Yes. That’s what they do because they have rejected Jesus as Messiah.



JLB

 

[PeterJens]

I'm looking for clarification. I've always heard that the last antichrist will have a Middle East peace treaty. Is this scripturally true?

This peace treaty is more about fear of Iran and Shia muslims and the civil war in Lebannon, Syria, Yemen, which appears to be spreading and the Sunni influence is not standing strong. Libya has fallen, Turkey is involved, Sunni islam is split with nutcases like IS causing total chaos, splitting the community, oil price is falling and with climate change etc the future of oil is now not so rosy, and a lot of these states have little else. Turkey wants to see the rise of the Ottoman empire again etc.

Where is there one strong middle east country? Israel is no longer the issue, the future of these nation states are, or they will descend into ungovernable states with no central structure, like Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Syria or Libya. You can see why Iran and Turkey now see their chances. What happens though if the climate goes hotter, drier?

Covid has cut off tourism dead, which was a real money earner. Lebannon they say is on the verge of collapse with the bomb in Beruit. This place is a total mess, and currently there does not appear to be an easy way out.
God bless you

 

[Shilohsfoal]

This peace treaty is more about fear of Iran and Shia muslims and the civil war in Lebannon, Syria, Yemen, which appears to be spreading and the Sunni influence is not standing strong. Libya has fallen, Turkey is involved, Sunni islam is split with nutcases like IS causing total chaos, splitting the community, oil price is falling and with climate change etc the future of oil is now not so rosy, and a lot of these states have little else. Turkey wants to see the rise of the Ottoman empire again etc.

Where is there one strong middle east country? Israel is no longer the issue, the future of these nation states are, or they will descend into ungovernable states with no central structure, like Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Syria or Libya. You can see why Iran and Turkey now see their chances. What happens though if the climate goes hotter, drier?

Covid has cut off tourism dead, which was a real money earner. Lebannon they say is on the verge of collapse with the bomb in Beruit. This place is a total mess, and currently there does not appear to be an easy way out.
God bless you

Sadam was a counter balance to Iran. The US removed Iran's enemy.

 

[LovethroughDove]

Yes. That’s what they do because they have rejected Jesus as Messiah.



JLB

I hope if it gets to this point (animal sacrifice again), they will actually give Jesus a second look.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I hope if it gets to this point (animal sacrifice again), they will actually give Jesus a second look.

Some of them will give Jesus a second look when the second beast shows up in Jerusalem giving everyone a mark in thier right hand or forehead used for buying and selling.