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The ONLY True God!
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And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.’ ” Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’ Exodus 3:14-15
Who was speaking to Moses in this passage?
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:58-59
Why did the Pharisees take up stones to throw at Him for claiming he is I AM ?
JLB
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And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.’ ” Moreover God said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.’ Exodus 3:14-15
Who was speaking to Moses in this passage?
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”
Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. John 8:58-59
Why did the Pharisees take up stones to throw at Him for claiming he is I AM ?
Please answer the question.
JLB
Now Gen 18 and 19, where three men appeared to Abraham and Lot.
Clergy say it was the Trinity (Father, Son and Ghost] Let's see what the ACCOUNT says-
Gen 18:1-And Jehovah appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre. And he sat at the
tent-door in the heat of the day.
2-And he lifted up his eyes and saw, and behold, three men standing near
him. And when he saw [them], he ran to meet them from the tent-door, and bowed himself to the earth,
3-and said, Lord, if now I have found favor in thine eyes, pass not away, I
pray thee, from thy servant.
4-Let now a little water be fetched, that ye may wash your feet, and rest
yourselves under the tree.
8-And he took thick and sweet milk, and the calf that he had dressed, and set
[it] before them; and he stood before them under the tree, and they ate.
9-And they said to him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.
10-And he said, I will certainly return to thee at [this] time of the year,
and behold, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah was listening at the
tent-door, which was behind him.
11-Now Abraham and Sarah were old [and] advanced in age: it had ceased to be
with Sarah after the manner of women.
12-And Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am become old, shall
I have pleasure, and my lord old?
13-And Jehovah said to Abraham, Why is this, that Sarah laughs, saying,
Shall I indeed bear, when I am become old?
14-Is [any] matter too wonderful for Jehovah? At the time appointed I will
return to thee, at [this] time of the year, and Sarah shall have a son.
20-And Jehovah said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah's great and their sin is very grievous,
21-I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come to me; and if not, I will know [it].
[No "Omnipresence"]
22-And the men turned thence, and went towards Sodom; and Abraham remained
yet standing before Jehovah.
[This is not Jehovah, literally, but angels representing Him]
23-And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also cause the righteous to perish with the wicked?
33-And Jehovah went away when he had ended speaking to Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place.
Genesis 19
1-And the two angels came to Sodom at even. And Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. And Lot saw them, and rose up to meet them; and he bowed down, the face toward the ground.
15-And as the dawn arose, the angels urged Lot, saying, "Up, take thy wife and thy two daughters who are present, lest thou perish in the iniquity of the city."
16-And as he lingered, the men laid hold on his hand, and on the hand of his wife, and on the hand of his two daughters, Jehovah being merciful to him;
and they led him out, and set him without the city.
17-And it came to pass when they had brought them outside, that he said,
Escape for thy life: look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain: escape to the mountain, lest
thou perish.
23-The sun rose upon the earth when Lot came to Zoar.
24-And Jehovah rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Jehovah out of heaven.
Now, what does the account show us?
Did Three Gods, or 'God-Persons/Natures/Essences' become "men" to visit Abraham and Sodom?
God-the-Father, God-the-Son, and God-the-Ghost doing all this...or Jehovah speaking and working thru these angels?
Notice that they are called "men", "angels" ,and "Jehovah" interchangeably.
As we continue thru the Bible, you will see OTHER ac counts where an Angel is spoken of as "Jehovah"
( or "LORD" in most translations removing it) for the sole reason God is SPEAKING directly THRU them.
Clergy say it was the Trinity (Father, Son and Ghost] Let's see what the ACCOUNT says-
Gen 18:1-And Jehovah appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre. And he sat at the
tent-door in the heat of the day.
2-And he lifted up his eyes and saw, and behold, three men standing near
him. And when he saw [them], he ran to meet them from the tent-door, and bowed himself to the earth,
3-and said, Lord, if now I have found favor in thine eyes, pass not away, I
pray thee, from thy servant.
4-Let now a little water be fetched, that ye may wash your feet, and rest
yourselves under the tree.
8-And he took thick and sweet milk, and the calf that he had dressed, and set
[it] before them; and he stood before them under the tree, and they ate.
9-And they said to him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.
10-And he said, I will certainly return to thee at [this] time of the year,
and behold, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah was listening at the
tent-door, which was behind him.
11-Now Abraham and Sarah were old [and] advanced in age: it had ceased to be
with Sarah after the manner of women.
12-And Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am become old, shall
I have pleasure, and my lord old?
13-And Jehovah said to Abraham, Why is this, that Sarah laughs, saying,
Shall I indeed bear, when I am become old?
14-Is [any] matter too wonderful for Jehovah? At the time appointed I will
return to thee, at [this] time of the year, and Sarah shall have a son.
20-And Jehovah said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah's great and their sin is very grievous,
21-I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come to me; and if not, I will know [it].
[No "Omnipresence"]
22-And the men turned thence, and went towards Sodom; and Abraham remained
yet standing before Jehovah.
[This is not Jehovah, literally, but angels representing Him]
23-And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also cause the righteous to perish with the wicked?
33-And Jehovah went away when he had ended speaking to Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place.
Genesis 19
1-And the two angels came to Sodom at even. And Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. And Lot saw them, and rose up to meet them; and he bowed down, the face toward the ground.
15-And as the dawn arose, the angels urged Lot, saying, "Up, take thy wife and thy two daughters who are present, lest thou perish in the iniquity of the city."
16-And as he lingered, the men laid hold on his hand, and on the hand of his wife, and on the hand of his two daughters, Jehovah being merciful to him;
and they led him out, and set him without the city.
17-And it came to pass when they had brought them outside, that he said,
Escape for thy life: look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain: escape to the mountain, lest
thou perish.
23-The sun rose upon the earth when Lot came to Zoar.
24-And Jehovah rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from Jehovah out of heaven.
Now, what does the account show us?
Did Three Gods, or 'God-Persons/Natures/Essences' become "men" to visit Abraham and Sodom?
God-the-Father, God-the-Son, and God-the-Ghost doing all this...or Jehovah speaking and working thru these angels?
Notice that they are called "men", "angels" ,and "Jehovah" interchangeably.
As we continue thru the Bible, you will see OTHER ac counts where an Angel is spoken of as "Jehovah"
( or "LORD" in most translations removing it) for the sole reason God is SPEAKING directly THRU them.
The next account that gives us insight into the Identity of God is Exodus.
Ex 3:13 - And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel,
and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me,
What is his name? What shall I say unto them?
14- And God said unto Moses,, "I Shall Be As I Shall Be." [ https://exodus-314.com/part-i/exodus-314-in-judaism/exodus-314-in-jewish-bible-translations/]
And He said, "So you shall say to the Children of Israel, "I Shall Be has sent me to you". [No "I am]
15- And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,
>>>> Jehovah, <<<<
the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my NAME FOREVER,
and this is my memorial unto all generations.
No mention of 'God-the-Son', nor 'God-the-Ghost'.
A Personal Name that would be FOREVER!
Also notice that God NEVER says "If you listen to US, WE will bless you". etc. when speaking to man; He ALWAYS speaks in the first person!
This does not show 3 God-Beings, but ONE Personage.
Now verified~ https://religionnews.com/2018/01/25...-god-re-discovered-in-1000-bible-manuscripts/
Ex 3:13 - And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel,
and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me,
What is his name? What shall I say unto them?
14- And God said unto Moses,, "I Shall Be As I Shall Be." [ https://exodus-314.com/part-i/exodus-314-in-judaism/exodus-314-in-jewish-bible-translations/]
And He said, "So you shall say to the Children of Israel, "I Shall Be has sent me to you". [No "I am]
15- And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,
>>>> Jehovah, <<<<
the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my NAME FOREVER,
and this is my memorial unto all generations.
No mention of 'God-the-Son', nor 'God-the-Ghost'.
A Personal Name that would be FOREVER!
Also notice that God NEVER says "If you listen to US, WE will bless you". etc. when speaking to man; He ALWAYS speaks in the first person!
This does not show 3 God-Beings, but ONE Personage.
Now verified~ https://religionnews.com/2018/01/25...-god-re-discovered-in-1000-bible-manuscripts/
For FOUR HUNDRED YEARS, the Jews who worshiped him were in bondage to Egypt, and, understandably, were starting to doubt he existed or cared.
Thus he told Moses, whom He would use as a Word and a Spokesman, and arranged for his brother to speak FOR them, since Moses was poor at speaking -
Ex 4:15- You will speak with him and tell him what to say. I will help both you and him [to speak], and will teach you both what to do.
16- He will speak to the people for you. He will be your spokesman, and you will serve as God to him.
17- And take this staff in your hand that you will perform the signs with.
Exodus 7:1 - And Jehovah said to Moses, " See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh;
and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. - Darby
So Moses "Was God" to Aaron and to Pharaoh (in a lesser sense).
Just as Jesus "Was God" to the world.
Heb 3:1- Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts
on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle ["sent-forth One"] and high priest.
2- He was faithful to the One who appointed him, >> just as <<< Moses was faithful in all God's house.
God is NOT an Apostle, is NOT a High Priest. JESUS is!
No 'Co-Equal' Fellow-Gods.
No Nameless Ghost-God .
The Only-Begotten son OF God, always faithful and loyal, to the ONLY true God, Jehovah.
Thus he told Moses, whom He would use as a Word and a Spokesman, and arranged for his brother to speak FOR them, since Moses was poor at speaking -
Ex 4:15- You will speak with him and tell him what to say. I will help both you and him [to speak], and will teach you both what to do.
16- He will speak to the people for you. He will be your spokesman, and you will serve as God to him.
17- And take this staff in your hand that you will perform the signs with.
Exodus 7:1 - And Jehovah said to Moses, " See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh;
and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. - Darby
So Moses "Was God" to Aaron and to Pharaoh (in a lesser sense).
Just as Jesus "Was God" to the world.
Heb 3:1- Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts
on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle ["sent-forth One"] and high priest.
2- He was faithful to the One who appointed him, >> just as <<< Moses was faithful in all God's house.
God is NOT an Apostle, is NOT a High Priest. JESUS is!
No 'Co-Equal' Fellow-Gods.
No Nameless Ghost-God .
The Only-Begotten son OF God, always faithful and loyal, to the ONLY true God, Jehovah.
The next account giving us insight as to the nature & identity of God is found at Exodus 19.
The Israelites had just been delivered from Egypt, and God says He is going to appear before them all.
How will He do it? In a physical form, as the angels did with Abraham?
Does God HIMSELF become "a little lower than ANGELS", as Christ later did?
Ex 19: 9- And Jehovah said to Moses, Lo, I will come to thee in the cloud's thick darkness, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee also for ever.
And Moses told the words of the people to Jehovah. -Darby
Was this even God Himself? Notice the Third Person wording:
Ex 19:24- And Jehovah said unto him, "Go, get thee down; and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests
and the people break through to come up unto Jehovah, lest He break forth upon them." - ASV
This indicates it was someone acting as the Word (Spokesman) of God...
Ex 23:20-"See, I am sending an >>> ANGEL <<< ahead of you to
guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared.
21- Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him;
he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
22- If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say,
I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you."
1 Cor 10:1- I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea,
2- and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3- and all ate the same supernatural food
4- and all drank the same supernatural drink. For they drank from the supernatural Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
Christ was the Word OF God- from the very beginning!
He WAS God, as Moses just had been to Pharaoh!
The Israelites had just been delivered from Egypt, and God says He is going to appear before them all.
How will He do it? In a physical form, as the angels did with Abraham?
Does God HIMSELF become "a little lower than ANGELS", as Christ later did?
Ex 19: 9- And Jehovah said to Moses, Lo, I will come to thee in the cloud's thick darkness, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee also for ever.
And Moses told the words of the people to Jehovah. -Darby
Was this even God Himself? Notice the Third Person wording:
Ex 19:24- And Jehovah said unto him, "Go, get thee down; and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests
and the people break through to come up unto Jehovah, lest He break forth upon them." - ASV
This indicates it was someone acting as the Word (Spokesman) of God...
Ex 23:20-"See, I am sending an >>> ANGEL <<< ahead of you to
guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared.
21- Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him;
he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
22- If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say,
I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you."
1 Cor 10:1- I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea,
2- and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3- and all ate the same supernatural food
4- and all drank the same supernatural drink. For they drank from the supernatural Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ.
Christ was the Word OF God- from the very beginning!
He WAS God, as Moses just had been to Pharaoh!
Many thousands saw Jesus, but Jesus confirmed the fact that~
Ex 33:20- And He said, Thou canst not see my face; for Man shall not see me, and live.
21-And Jehovah said, Behold, [there is] a place by me: there shalt thou stand on the rock.
22-And it shall come to pass, when my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand, until I have passed by.
23-And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see me from behind; but my face shall not be seen.
My guess is that 'behind' was the only term Moses could understand; a way of saying
a very small PART of Him. Maybe it was blinding light....for~
Ex 34:35- the people of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Mose's face shone!
Ex 33:20- And He said, Thou canst not see my face; for Man shall not see me, and live.
21-And Jehovah said, Behold, [there is] a place by me: there shalt thou stand on the rock.
22-And it shall come to pass, when my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a cleft of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand, until I have passed by.
23-And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see me from behind; but my face shall not be seen.
My guess is that 'behind' was the only term Moses could understand; a way of saying
a very small PART of Him. Maybe it was blinding light....for~
Ex 34:35- the people of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Mose's face shone!
One particular account gives a clear picture of God's Spirit- see if it is 1/3 God- a 'Holy Ghost', or...
Num 11:16- And Jehovah said to Moses, “Gather for me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom you know to be the elders of the people and officers over them; and bring them to the tent of meeting, and let them take their stand there with you. 17- And I will come down and talk with you there; and I will take >>> some <<< of the spirit
which is upon you and put >>> it <<< upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with you, that you may not bear it yourself alone.
(Repeated several times in the account)
God HIMSELF calls the holy spirit "IT"- SEVERAL times, and says He will take SOME of IT from Moses.
Was the Ghost-God of Churchianity chopped up & passed around?
Did Almighty God #1 call God #3 "IT"????
Of COURSE not!
Num 11:16- And Jehovah said to Moses, “Gather for me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom you know to be the elders of the people and officers over them; and bring them to the tent of meeting, and let them take their stand there with you. 17- And I will come down and talk with you there; and I will take >>> some <<< of the spirit
which is upon you and put >>> it <<< upon them; and they shall bear the burden of the people with you, that you may not bear it yourself alone.
(Repeated several times in the account)
God HIMSELF calls the holy spirit "IT"- SEVERAL times, and says He will take SOME of IT from Moses.
Was the Ghost-God of Churchianity chopped up & passed around?
Did Almighty God #1 call God #3 "IT"????
Of COURSE not!