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The evidence is overwhelming and growing!

Do you believe the 2020 Presidential Election was valid?

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The election was valid with what data was presented . But was the data presented correct that is the question .
 
I don't think that the elections have accurately reflected the will of the people since the turn of the century beginning with the manufactured 'hanging chad' circus in Florida. Just sayin'. I also have to question how many 'Republican' candidates over the years are actually RINOs or even plants as evidenced by the legislation that has been passed in the last couple of decades.
 
I have serious doubts it was valid.
On Election night seeing Trump ahead late at night, only to wake up to a reversal.
Seeing Biden with little popular support and holding dismal rallies added to the suspicion as well as to see Twitter, YT and other social media platforms squelch free speech about the elections (you couldn't even hint at the fact that the election was stolen) and Covid added only more suspicion. What is more worrisome than the election debacle is the rampant censorship that attended the aftermath. This is not free America.
 
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Seeing Biden with little popular support and holding dismal rallies added to the suspicion as well
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He had more support than you think. Huge rally attendance doesn't mean an automatic win, over someone with lesser attendance. We are in the middle of a pandemic, and while Trump might not of cared whether his supporters got sick, Biden did.

He kept attendance at his rallies low and asked for people to do drive through rallies instead. Keeping people safe in their cars instead of crowded next to each other.

I think the election was valid and the votes correct.

Not going to comment on the censorship aspect.
 
I agree with Hawkman. It was correct to the data given and was certified. That makes it legally valid.

But I do have serious questions about that data.
 
D-D-W said:
I agree with Hawkman. It was correct to the data given and was certified. That makes it legally valid.

But I do have serious questions about that data.
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The ballots we’re never certified.


They have found hundreds of thousands of ballots that were either duplicated, or made by invalid voters, dead voters, voters who did not live in that state under voters, and illegal aliens who voted.


Then there was ballots that were turned in where multiple people living at the same address, where there was a vacant lot.


Thse we’re just in the Mail In ballots.


Now that they have access to the machines that have found fractional voting, and that the machines have Bluetooth and Wireless capabilities to connect them to the internet. They have found where the machine took a ballot that was uploaded for Trump and changed it to Biden.


Right now there are at the stage of preparing the evidence of court in Arizona.


In other key states they are in various stages, of still waging court battles with Democrat Judges.




JLB
 
JLB said:
Right now there are at the stage of preparing the evidence of court in Arizona.
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If you are talking about the evidence from the Cyber Ninjas, everyone knew what they were going to find and it's not because there was fraud. It's because that group wants Trump in office and will lie to get him there. Why do you think they haven't done what was asked of them as well as ordered by the court and that is to provide their records. The CEO of Cyber Ninjas has repeated the conspiracy theories that the election was stolen. You have repeated those same theories in the post I have quoted.

It's a sham audit and the majority of the population of this country thankfully know it!
 
Isilwen said:
If you are talking about the evidence from the Cyber Ninjas, everyone knew what they were going to find and it's not because there was fraud. It's because that group wants Trump in office and will lie to get him there. Why do you think they haven't done what was asked of them as well as ordered by the court and that is to provide their records. The CEO of Cyber Ninjas has repeated the conspiracy theories that the election was stolen. You have repeated those same theories in the post I have quoted.

It's a sham audit and the majority of the population of this country thankfully know it!
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Why is the audit a sham?


Did you know, thousands of citizens in Arizona, got together and did canvass work to discover that hundreds of thousands of ballots that were either duplicated, or made by invalid voters, dead voters, voters who did not live in that state under voters, and illegal aliens who voted.


Then there was ballots that were turned in where multiple people living at the same address, where there was a vacant lot.



This work was done long before they decided to hire a company to do a forensic audit of the machines.


Do you understand that Biden “won” by a margin of a little over ten thousand votes?






JLB
 
look I follow the news on both sides ,the other audit conducted in Maricopa county says otherwise ,some errors but not enough to change the election
 
JLB said:
Why is the audit a sham?


Did you know, thousands of citizens in Arizona, got together and did canvass work to discover that hundreds of thousands of ballots that were either duplicated, or made by invalid voters, dead voters, voters who did not live in that state under voters, and illegal aliens who voted.


Then there was ballots that were turned in where multiple people living at the same address, where there was a vacant lot.



This work was done long before they decided to hire a company to do a forensic audit of the machines.


Do you understand that Biden “won” by a margin of a little over ten thousand votes?






JLB
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I will agree to disagree. I will not get into an endless debate over this.
 
We probably shouldn't be veering into politics here. We'll know eventually, anyway since the Arizona Supreme Court has ruled that the republicans will have to make all the information about the audit results, funding, and procedures public.

Republicans are appealing, but it doesn't look like they will win.
 
I find this prophecy from 2008, some 12 years before the 2020 election, very encouraging.


APRIL 4TH, 2008-SEATTLE, WA​


...And they shall say, "but now there is a second President, how can we have two presidents?" An unusual thing, isn't it, says the Spirit of the Lord? Why would it be that one with a double mind would stand up and face the people? No, they shall say "we have two presidents, what do we do now? Fear not, for God said, as I promised before this is My Nation and I will change things according to the time and season and I told you now in Spring I will expose and reveal things that have been hidden so that My Nation can move into this next election and to the next phase with victory and honor and glory, says the Lord
of Hosts!
 
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