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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    The delusion is created when you take quotes out of context to make them seem to mean something quite different than the original intent. What I meant by the need to research and study was that in order to understand what is meant here, you must not only read the entire discourse, but several...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    If you look at the context of the whole discourse and many other discourses of Brigham Young, it will become very clear that he is only referring to a limited number of possible Mormons living at that time who not only have made certain temple covenants, but had a better than average...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    You are confusing me here. You appear to be saying the words of Brigham Young are the words of Joseph Smith. It makes me wonder what exactly are you referring to. I am also confused as to what tactic you are trying to describe. I did not say anything about Joseph or Brigham not meaning what they...
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    And what if this Muslim only ever new lies about Christianity and was never taught the true gospel of Christ, do you still believe the atonement would not cover his sins?
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    Please excuse my posting of blasphemy

    First of all, By Grace, the above quote is not directed at those you consider to be “Christiansâ€. So let me ask you about what you believe in the atonement. Do you believe that Christ’s atonement covers the sins of a Muslim who calls for the death of Christians to his dying day?
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    I thought you would read my post #21. Please see it for the Biblical reference. I would like to see how you can dance around John 20:17. It says that Mary and Jesus share the same Father and God in the same way. That proves that the Bible teaches that Jesus is indeed created and has a father...
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    Where does the Bible call the teaching of Satan and Jesus being brothers, blasphemy? I would be careful if I were you, in calling something blasphemy that the Bible does not call blasphemy. Remember what Saul of Tarsus considered blasphemy as he participated in the execution of the saints of his...
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    You have a very distorted view of the God Mormons believe in then. We do not believe in anything about God that would make him “little†that man can thwart. You have a vivid imagination, but you have imagined wrong. Protestants believe in a God that would allow His church to become...
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    For the same reason the Bible is sacred to me and you. It is sacred scripture from God. Yes, the doctrine and the statements are true, but are not all taught in the Book of Mormon. And yes, I can prove that the Bible teaches that Satan and Jesus are sons of the same Father. Eph. 4:6...
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    By Grace, The Book of Mormon is very sacred to me. When someone makes a public statement about what it contains that is not true, it is obvious they are simply parroting what they have heard others say and have no idea of what they are saying from personal learning. It shows they are simply...
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    I should add that I personally believe that most of the things that were removed during the corrupt period of the state run Catholic Church would have occurred with the texts of the New Testament and not so much the Old. I think it is also likely that this organization was responsible for the...
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    Allow me to explain here. First of all, although I have not seen this quote in its original context, I seriously doubt that the word Christianity in parentheses was included in the original quote, but was added by a critic of the church. The abominable organization he is referring to is the...
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    By Grace, none of these statements is shocking or surprising to me. In fact, I agree with all of them within the context they were meant to be understood. You are presenting them in a context that is inaccurate and is indeed inflammatory to say the least. You are not only causing flaming, but...
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    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    This is a perfect example of people making wild assumptions from trusting the wrong sources. skrwitch, please share with us the reference in the Book of Mormon that teaches that Satan and Jesus are spirit brothers. You have no idea what you are talking about.
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Yes. All Mormons who understand the official teachings of the church. I would call it raising from the dead, or bringing him back to life to continue his mortality a little longer. For Mormons, resurrected means re-uniting the spirit with the dead body into an immortal being. None other. I...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I have always understood very clearly what you mean by moving the goalposts. What I can’t figure out is why you ignore the verses of the Bible I referenced as part of the criteria for defining a prophet or prophecy. Why do you not address the evidence provided in Exodus 7:1, 1Tim. 4:14, 2Pet...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Thank you for this interesting insight. And here I thought it was only the JWs who thought bringing Lazarus back to life was a resurrection. I am glad to know this is what you believe. Do all Evangelicals believe this? I see one possible contradiction in your reasoning here, however. If Jesus...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    By Grace, do you realize what you are saying here? You did not deny that my expanded definition of prophecy and prophet is supported by several scriptures in the Bible, Exodus 7:1, 1Tim. 4:14, 2Pet. 1:19-21 and Rev. 19:10. But you say that this Biblical definition of a prophet or prophecy is...
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    It isn't Islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you!

    I see this as the most important post of this entire thread. Everyone participating should seriously consider this and consider the ramifications. Instead of a knee-jerk reaction, please try and see the truth in it.
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    mormonism

    This is a very interesting and informed comment. What is even more thought provoking is the fact that none of the Abrahamic lore mentioned here was available to Joseph Smith when he produced it. Most of it has come about in the last several decades as many ancient documents have been discovered...
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