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  1. J

    FYI Mormonism teaches its people to be anti-Christian

    A lot of what you say here goes along with what I define as a "belief in a Lillie God versus a Belief in the God of the Bible that man cannot thwart." Mormons teach of a "little God' Who is unable to transmit and preserve His Word or even inspire men to translate His Word into other languages...
  2. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    The whole issue of not understanding really starts with the differences of Who Christ is in Mormonism versus what many of us call the "Biblical Christ". Mormonism teaches of a separate and distinct Christ who is "One with the Father in Purpose", but still a separate Being, who through Obedience...
  3. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Have debated many Mormons over the years and "deflection" for them seems to be the rule rather than the exception--it's like we can't discuss the central question, bur instead they want to move elsewhere to create questions or establish some sort of validity--in this case you are triyng to...
  4. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    This whole debate has become tedious and if you falsely want to believe you won--I certainly cannot change that. It is however, abundantly clear that one of us will be very disappointed in the End becaus we've been led on the wrong pathway and basically worshiped the Wrong Christ. Of course...
  5. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Let's get off of this rabbit trail we have been on and get back to the subject of this thread--- The Mormon Belief in Deification and really if Joseph Smith was a True prophet of God, claiming he restored this Beliefs in the Church in the Church he founded. This was one of the major items that I...
  6. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Christ's True Church is a Body of Believers Who have all found a True Faith in Him via the Holy Spirit. Part of that "Body" can be in many different man-made Church affiliations. and yes, even some Mormons could conceivably be in that Body of Christ when their True Faith is focused rightly...
  7. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I think you are looking a Religion as to what it has become rather that what it was intended to be--One Faith, one baptism, etc. with Christ as the head of the Church. The early Churches in the different cities Paul wrote his Epistles to where house churches--no sign out front proclaiming their...
  8. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    For many, Religion has become the means for Salvation--or at least many wrongly think that it is their individual Religion will save them. "Religion" in the Bible is essentially being misused-thus the proliferation of so many Religious identities with many claiming their Religion is the only...
  9. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Will try to respond here in one response. You sat Joseph Smith made the same claim as Moses, Peter and Paul. A "claim" is really not an established fact or really isn't God's established fact without some sort of proof that the claim can be supported elsewhere." Prophets are subject to the...
  10. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    You are right-- you did not make the claim that i accused you of. Still though, as to the "fruits" of your Church in teachings it's members to cope with not only losses, but also so many things that come up in our lives--I see so many signs that Christ really isn't taught in the LDS Church as...
  11. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Ir is true that we each have our own unique circumstances in life, and in all that we become conditioned in a sense to sometimes merely accept things we were previously taught as established truths. But when Christ seems to be calling us closer to Him [as I felt after the loss of my son], we...
  12. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I too, had what i thought was a solid testimony at one time but then I found out it was mostly derived from deceptions. No, Mormons are not stupid but rather deceived as i once was. As to my "understandings" [which you say are innacurate] versus maybe yours, it all comes down to a matter of...
  13. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I too, do not live in a bubble and really with so many of my family members still in the Church with many doing Temple work and some havuing gone on Missions, I can look at the "fruits' of the LDS Religion from many vantage points. Also live in a smaller town and am acquainted with many...
  14. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Since i was on the subject of "testimonies" and how Mormons are taught to always preserve their own and then the so-called power attached to their testimonies through the priesthood, I wanted to comment about an experience in 2008. I was on a mission trip to Peru with members of the 1st Baptist...
  15. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    thank you for adding that---it is all more of the wonderful "fuits" that proveallthings seems to think are these evidences of Christ's True Church.
  16. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    http://www.mentalhealthamerica.net/go/state-ranking Here is the link to the right study
  17. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    The sad thing is that [like myself at one time] you lie to yourself here on the "questioning" thing. You might nibble around the edges on really questioning something but always the important thing is to always preserve your testimony in the church and Joseph Smith. Your testimony becomes your...
  18. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    You are really grasping at straws, trying to come up with a rationalization as to why I left the supposed "One , True Church" here on earth. As to understanding--I probably had a strong testimony in the church for maybe 20 years, and couldn't wait on testimony Sunday to bear my own testimony...
  19. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Over the years I have had conversations with numerous Mormon missionaries--especially after I asked to be taken off the rolls. I am pretty sure it was my Mom who kept sending them and for the most part, I usually invited them inside and we discussed my disagreements with the Mormon Church. It...
  20. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    If this Doctrine was the only one that causes me to really question the Mormon church , it might have been a different matter., but alas it was one of many. In fact, the two Doctrines I concentrated on in my studies before I made the decisions to leave the Church was the Eternal Progression...
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