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  1. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Do you think you are telling me things I do not already know? In the late 1960's after that book came out, I partially remember a Sunday School lesson that was devoted to not totally trusting in works that were not Officially recognized or endorsed by the Church and this particular book was...
  2. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    I liken it to being released from a Prison of sorts or going from an existence where one was previously under this dark, consuming cloud and suddenly finding the sunshine. My whole Journey out of the Church started with the death of my 19 year old son where God really got my attention and yes...
  3. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Don’t have a copy of the D&C anymore but let’s examine what Bruce McConkie says about it in his book Mormon Doctrine in which he references the D&C along with the Teachings of Joseph Smith, among other Church-recognized publications. “Murderers: Murder, the unlawful killing of a human...
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    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Sorry I missed the personal attack that the moderator edited out---guess it must be pretty hard to realize many like me have walked away from the supposed “One, True Church†you esteem so highly. I am betting my very Salvation that I believe God showed me the way out and did ponder much as...
  5. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    proveallthings, I want to thank you here for basically reminding me of what a huge Miracle it was when God brought me out of the Mormon Church. It certainly was not my Wisdom, but rather God who showed me the way out of your Religion. Lots of prayers, much Bible discernment against Mormon...
  6. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Was not referring to capital punishment, but since you bring it up I will respond. Certainly you know that the State of Utah still has execution by a firing squad as a option? That is, it is the one method that “spills blood” that was enacted back when Utah became a State and reflect the blood...
  7. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Let's start with the Blood Atonement Belief for starters: Brigham Young, the second president of the Mormon Church, publicly preached what is known as the "blood atonement" doctrine—i.e., that a man might be killed to save his soul. His sermons were published in the Church's own newspaper...
  8. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    The trouble with the whole Eternal Progression thing is that man supposedly has this chance to be Exaulted and in that "God becomes lesser while man becomes more"----in a sense. We really never develop any sort of dependance on Christ when we think all our good works and our human endeavors...
  9. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    One of the main things satan will always try to do is to diminish God in a huge variety of ways and attempt to convince each of us that God is less Omnipotent than He is or maybe just to doubt Him and His Word. Just like in the Garden of Eden, pride got in the way of following through with the...
  10. J

    Freemasonry- Can a Christian be a mason?

    After all the degree work, became a Master Mason in 1995 after the urging of my Dad because it was a "generational thing", going back at least five generations on my Dad's side. Found the rituals and the even the oaths very easy to remember and recite, which in itself was very curious to...
  11. J

    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    Granted I do eessentially get to decide for myself, but I think the premise of this thread was "Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?" I simply cannot make that call for others or the "all" in this question, nor do I want to make that call.
  12. J

    Will all born-again Christians make it to heaven?

    Lord, thank you that this question is not something that I get to decide. Amen
  13. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    VainSyntheticPiety, So I'm supposed to see the "light of Jesus Christ" in you and your statements when you admit you are being cynical and sarcastic? That the Church you represent is really the True One after all?
  14. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    Let's UN-assume things here, Sport. I grew up in the Mormon Religion, spent the first 40 years of my life in it and as to understanding the foundational Doctrines of the Church--I pretty much had it all hammered into my head from the time I was a child.Had both priesthoods, along with the...
  15. J

    The Mormon Belief of Deification

    proveallthings---Still trying to wrap my mind around this huge contradiction. What you are saying is that once Jesus became God, His Past [before He became God] was wiped out and He then gained Eternal Godhood. The word Eternal, among other things, means "true at all times" While the Bible...
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    mormonism

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    mormonism

    The basis for many of your arguments IS you have to establish [and hold onto] a very strong Faith in Joseph Smith as a True Prophet and the Church he established as the One, True Church. Thus, it is why a valid Testimony in your Church should at least include those two items. You speak of...
  18. J

    Can Someone Familiar With the Book of Mormon Give Me Some Guidance, Please?

    Also, I might suggest the book Mormon Doctrine by Bruce McConkie who was a member of the Church Leadership and this book is fairly clear as to most of their Beliefs.
  19. J

    Can Someone Familiar With the Book of Mormon Give Me Some Guidance, Please?

    As a former Mormon myself, the Theological "problems" with many of the Mormon beliefs are really not found in the book of Mormon, but rather mostly in the Doctrine and Covenants of the Church. The LDS Church recognizes the BoM, The D&C, the Pearl of Great Price and the KJ Bible as Scripture [...
  20. J

    mormonism

    You will not find any songs in the hymnals in most Churchs that are written to sing praise to Paul of Abraham or Moses, I found this "gem" in the LDS hymnal that does show a certain praise to Joseph Smith--in fact it is all about PRAISE to Joseph Smith, the man...
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