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    How do you know the Bible is the complete, infallible, literal Word of God?

    I picked this sentence out while skimming over the thread and felt compelled to make a comment. I don't want to derail the topic too much but I also don't really want to make a thread (my arguments certainly don't hold much weight in apologetics and theology!) I was just wondering if...
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    [_ Old Earth _] I Don't Get It...

    One misconception that a lot of people have with abiogenesis is the need for a specific sequence of nucleotides in order for life to proceed. Since the first life forms undoubtedly did not translate their own proteins, the order of nucleotides is irrelevant. Again, however, abiogenesis is...
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    [_ Old Earth _] interesting

    I wasn't able to open your link, but googled the title and found an article that talks about (what I think) is the same thing. I'm enrolled in a Developmental biology class right now and pretty much all we talk about are gene regulatory elements. Its a really neat and interesting area of...
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    How do you know God is real?

    I would respectfully disagree. I know a lot of atheists that are perfectly fine with other people believing in what they want to believe, myself included. I think its a "to each his own" scenario. I look up at the night sky and am no filled with no less wonder than someone who believes it is...
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    [_ Old Earth _] How do macroevolutionists refute irreducible complexity?

    Thanks. The one question I always pose is if the eye did not arise from natural selection then why do we have at least two (the cephalopod and us) unique eye forms that are not homologous? One of my profs always said "at least three" but I never heard what that other eye was from because he...
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    [_ Old Earth _] How do macroevolutionists refute irreducible complexity?

    Post above hit the nail on the head. Pre-adaptation. Stephen Jay Gould has a really nice essay on this topic where the question at hand was how could such a complex structure such as the eye come into existence. Sure half an eye does not confer any evolutionary advantage, but what if the...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Abiogenisis

    I get what you are saying as well, I would only add that when deciding on a natural vs. supernatural origin of life (I'm going to step back from the origin of material) one must deal with probabilities. To twist your Europe analogy - the majority of people (in fact the overwhelming majority)...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Abiogenisis

    You are correct in the regard that we cannot observe, recreate, or somehow "prove" any concept of abiogenesis. What we can do, however, is develop hypotheses and test some aspects of their validity to give us a framework to go with. Even if these are not provable, I feel that they have more...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Abiogenisis

    I'm kind of swinging back to the original topic, but there were a few points that I thought I wanted to address. The main problem with abiogenesis seems to me to center on the level of complexity that needs to arise randomly for life to begin. Like Ashua said, metabolism is an immensely...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    I agree with you so far as to say you can't have a literal Adam and a Literal eve and be a Theistic Evolutionist. I think a Theistic Evolutionist accepts that some things (in fact many things) in the bible are not literal. Maybe to you that does not make them a Christian, but they can still...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    Where are you basing this from? Not denying it, but I would like to see some sources. Maybe God doesn't need to control men? Maybe all this fear of fire and brimstone is only meant to improve the moral character of man? Just like you probably won't be eaten by a wolf if you continually cry...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    I think it would be wrong for a teacher to tell his/her students that god does not exist. It would also be wrong, however, for a teacher to give equal weight to the TOE and a Creationist world view. The goal of the science teacher is to explain to students how the natural world works according...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    I'm sorry, I little to no understanding of Hebrew, so perhaps you could explain how that passage was mistranslated to me. I would assume, however, that Hebrew has a word for "birds" and a word for "bats". You are correct in listing what I do believe: Abiogenesis and the "Randomness" of...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    It is true that science is constantly correcting itself. However, one thing science can do is prove things wrong. In another example after the whale which was a fish, here are some instructions straight from the LORD: Deuteronomy 14:11 Of all clean birds ye shall eat. 14:12 But these...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    And I can rest easy with that. You have your opinion and I have mine. Faith is one thing you cannot argue.
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    Alabaster, maybe I'm just plain dumb, but the sock eating a fish passed right over me. Oats, thats fine for you to believe that God can produce miracles, but in a forum discussing Christianity and science (and a thread specifically arguing the compatibility of modern science with scripture)...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    Hi Jason, I was just trying an alternate route of logic. My position was to demonstrate that there are contradictions within the scripture, lending evidence to human involvement in their writing. Even the Gospels (as evidenced by the different recordings of the inscription on the cross) had...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    A contradiction is still a contradiction. It doesn't have to infringe on any overlying theme to show that there is human error in the scriptures. If there is human error, there is human involvement. Take, for example, the differences between Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John's recording of the...
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    [_ Old Earth _] Christianity's Compatibly with Science.

    Alabaster, Even if we accept that God has the ability to circumvent physical constraints, how can contradictions within the bible be explained? Factual errors are no doubt a result of human authorship, and thus throw into question anything presented in the bible. For example, Ahaziah is...
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    If not God

    But thats just the thing! I don't view the fact that my world is insignificant as depressing or defeating. To quote Richard Feynman: "But I don`t have to know an answer. I don`t feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in the mysterious universe without having any purpose —...
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