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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus Here............
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Yep. Eternal life is to know the one true God and Jesus Christ whom He hath sent. Since it's vital, I make it a priority. God is not siamese triplets. Trinity doctrine won't bring unity. Only truth will bring unity. I'd gladly defer my departure briefly if someone wants to debate...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    There has been no discussion of Biblical evidence for Trinity, just basic inference. Just cut to the chase... exegete "person/s" from the sacred text and let scripture speak. Let God be true and every man a liar... me, you, or anyone. "Persons" is inferred. Period.
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Presumption and arrogance have been Trinity's calling cards for 1700 years, not mine. Perhaps indoctrination is the reason for my infraction. Please delete my account or forward this to whomever can or does. This forum is much too sensitive and restrictive for actual conversation. Thanx.
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    I've never indicated Father, Son, or Holy Spirit are "forces" or "ideas". The authority of scripture doesn't include "persons". It's inferred and superimposed. Nothing will ever change that. Trinity is error and propagated by indoctrination. I was a Trinitarian Pastor for 12 years. I've...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    I've asked for an exegesis of "persons" from the sacred text. It won't and can't be forthcoming. Trinity is inference and error. I wanted to discuss the text, not concepts and opinions from indoctrination of orthodoxy. I received an infraction for my directness. This is too sensitive a...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    I've never said the Son or Spirit are "forces". Anyway, I'll be on my way. This forum is not the place for me. No exegesis. Just opinions. Be blessed.
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Yes, let's do. Exegete "person/s" from the New Testament text, please. :-)
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    If so, please exegete "persons" from the text. And anyone can make an adamant statement. Please reinforce it with exegesis.
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    I'm not using strong language at all. As for the baptismal formula in Matthew, tell me each of those names, please. And why the six baptisms in scripture were all in some form of the name "Lord Jesus Christ". And you haven't answered my very simple question... Who spoke? You may answer any...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    All those references substantiate that Jesus is the prosopon (personal presence and appearance of one in the sight of another) of the one true and living God, and the Holy Spirit is God's own Spirit. Theotes (Godhead) is singular, so it indicates God has only one personality. Not without...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    For me it was an issue of Jesus being a different "who" than God. My understanding is that Jesus is the singular "person" of God in immanence. God's own divinity in and as a rational-souled man. My Trinity understanding was that God was God and Jesus was the divine Son of God hypostasized...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    I'll peruse his writings, then. :-)
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Yes, but he's no Watchman Nee.
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Commendable but apparent. Very different things, I assure you. I think you grossly underestimate prayer and fasting. I didn't inherit my beliefs from men. Secondarily, yes. Primarily, no. Perhaps a primer on the differences between knowledge, knowledge, knowledge, wisdom, prudence...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    To prologue my responses below, allow me to provide a few more disclaimers, as it were. :-) This is not an endeavor of academia for me, regardless how much stewardship of scholarship God's grace has influenced my heart to undertake. My singular pursuit is according to Ephesians 1:17, for the...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    A few direct quotes from ANF writings... "The most true God, is the Father of righteousness... We worship and adore Him, the Son (who came forth from Him and taught us these things..." -Justin Martyr (c160AD) "We acknowledge a God, and a Son (His Logos), and a Holy Spirit. These are united in...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    I'm not here to indoctrinate. Trinity has done that for nearly two millennia. I would appreciate cordial exchange and conduct. I haven't misrepresented Trinity or demeaned it in any way, though when pressed it's difficult not to resort to rhetoric. The paradox Trinitarians must resolve...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    This is much more substantial than being soulishly assured in my mind by opinion or preference. I'd think others might recognize at least that much. I'm unsure of which Greek word you're referring to. Interestingly, heresy originally simply meant "teaching" or "school of teaching"...
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    Who is Jesus

    I hope you enjoyed the game. You can read my posts and let me know what a deluded heretic I am tomorrow. Muahahahahaha!:eeeekkk:shrug:toofunny
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