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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    I'm specifically saying the Son and Holy Spirit are NOT created. The Son proceeded forth (exerchomai) from the Father (John 8:42); and the Holy Spirit proceedeth (ekporeuomai) from the Father (John 15:26). Before God spoke, nothing was external to Him and there wasn't any realm of existence He...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Yes, I understand that the vocab of my lexical-type expression is eye-glazing for many. To deal with seminary types, it's vital; but is over the top for most laity. Summarily... The one singular transcendent God spoke forth the complete divine content of Himself upon His breath (Spirit)...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus Great post! I look forward to any further conversation.
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    An initial glimpse of Divine Embryology The Logos is the sperm containing every strand of every helix of the Rhema spiritual DNA of God. The breath (Spirit) ejaculates that substance external to God at the utterance with the surrounding semen of the expanse of the created universe that is...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    This is descriptive rather than purely defining... ESSENCE & SUBSTANCE God is a spirit. Spirit essence is unconveyable externally out from the infinite eternal realm. That innate, inherent essence must become more "substantial" to become externalized from itself. The rhema "contenting" of...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    God ontologically externalized the fullness of Himself to dwell in a rational-souled man conceived by Mary's faith [which is substance (hupostasis) (Hebrews 11:1)] in the rhema divine content of God's logos spoken to her by the angel. "Be it unto me according to thy (rhema)." "She cherished...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    PHRONEMA of the Spirit What some refer to as a second consciousness was the human one during the Incarnation that was permeated with the Transcendant. Jesus let this mind be IN Him. We are to let this mind be in us which was ALSO in Christ Jesus. No second eternal divine consciousness. And...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    (continued) I see that the HS is God's OWN Spirit, not a third discreet God-"person". Jesus said He and the Father would come and make their abode in us, and we also see references to the indwelling HS. If none of the F/S/HS are each other and they're three distinct God-"people"; how do all...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    (continued) The following is how I exegete and present the Godhead. It is a HOW of what I've presented as much as it is a WHAT of God's constitution. HOW did God manifest His OWN self (person/prosopon) in the flesh? The Rhema-Logos portion covered John 8:42... "...for I proceeded forth...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    To begin, remember that all original Godhead formulations were undertaken as a means of apologetics to affirm and maintain Monotheism while accounting for Jesus and, ultimately, the Holy Spirit. Those God-models that presented Jesus as created and/or non-deity were focused on maintaining...
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    Who is Jesus

    Werx fer mee, jess lyk huukt awn fonix. :-)
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    Who is Jesus

    Thanx, Free. :-). I'll find one.
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus If I'm tracking your perception, we're in the vicinity. Note that scripture actually says, "... the word (rhema G4487) of His power,..." In my understanding, everything missing from all God-models is regarding the logos of God relative to the rhema. Not in that...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus My exclusions come from being called several on the list, so I disown most everything in advance now. :-P I hate to (further) 'jack a thread. Where would be best to discuss it? Perceptive, you are. I sense a refreshing opportunity for highly-rational conversation devoid...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus CHRIST DEITY Philippians 2:5-8 5"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form (morphe G3444) of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God; 7But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form (morphe G3444) of a servant...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus Your sig? Your post? My screen name? What? :-)
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus Thanx for clarifying. :-) Nor would I insinuate you or any other Trini is devoid of salvific faith; but I was, and it was directly because of Trinity. But I never felt lost, either. I was indoctrinated. My concern is that Trinity is propagated through indoctrination...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus I affirm: There is One Deity. The Father is Deity. The Holy Spirit is Deity. The Word (Son) is Deity. These Three are One Deity. The Father is Eternally Pre-Existent. The Holy Spirit is Eternally Pre-Existent. The Word is Eternally Pre-Existent. The Father is Uncreated...
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    Doctrine of the Trinity

    Re: Who is Jesus Though I'm new here, I'm a veteran forum participant. I read the SoF and ToS before joining, and respect the spiritual authority of those who own and administrate this board. That said, I have to wonder why Godhead discussion is so taboo on so many sites. Anything and...
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    'Nother Newb

    Not the Borg, Brother. The Matrix. You know... Neo, Morpheus, the Nebuchadnezzar. Just no Xemu from Scientology's Battlefield Earth. Tom Cruise is a flakester.
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