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  1. Wheat Field

    What is adultery?

    At the very least, Jesus appears to be at odds with the Jewish understanding of adultery which, according to Wikipedia, is: Leviticus 20:10 defines what constitutes adultery in the Hebrew Bible, and it also prescribes the punishment as capital punishment. In this verse, and in the Jewish...
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    What is adultery?

    One would assume that defining it would be simple...surely? Jesus does say in Matthew 5:27-28: You have heard it said, 'You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Clearly, Jesus is doubling...
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    It's been a while since posting on this thread - and I hazard to resurrect it - but the issue still troubles me. At the very least, someone who might otherwise follow Christ surely has some basis for skepticism? David is described by God as having done nothing wrong except for Uriah and yet we...
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    Dr. Peter Gentry seems to reflect your position: "Why did God allow polygamy in the Bible?" He points out that though OT figures were cited as great men of faith, they are never held up as figures or morality.
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    If God allowed Moses to grant men concessions in this respect, why would David be described as doing what was right in the eyes of God (with one exception)? Why not explicitly reference the concession? David had concubines. You don't think this looks awkward? 2 Samuel 12:7-8 Then Nathan said...
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    Why did God single out polygamy for concession? Polygamy is adultery even if we allow for a particular interpretation of Romans 7:1-3.
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    Jesus constantly referred back to the OT. I'm not clear what you are saying. David's adultery wasn't for his many wives and concubines, but for Bathsheba. As far as I am aware, a concubine isn't a wife and serves a man sexually. David was not explicitly reprimanded for this. Interesting that...
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    Thanks. Yes, the bible law does address the case of a man having more than one wife and as you say in your following post, it was not ideal (a 'concession'). I do find it extremely perplexing that such a seeming anomaly isn't explicitly addressed in scripture. Skeptics have and do use this to...
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    EDIT: Should be 1 Kings 15:5
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    Thanks wondering :) Such an interpretation (as you have agreed with) is problematic I think. When one compares the OT with the NT on this issue there does seem to be a conflict - and I do find it rather troubling. For example: 2 Samuel 5:13 After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and...
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    Ellicott's commentary on Romans 7:1-3

    Ellicott's commentary states that the marriage bond: 'is dissolved by the death of one of the parties to it.' This is important because Paul explicitly defines adultery (whilst using the case of the woman in a marriage) in verse 3: 'So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while...
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    An invitation to discuss Matthew 23:39

    I wanted to invite people's understanding of these dramatic words of Jesus Christ: For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. To whom is Jesus referring to? I think it has to be the Jewish spiritual leaders...
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    redsonnet says hello

    hi everyone - all the best :)
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