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  1. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] The Evolution Lie

    Duari listens to Craig: "I don't think it's plausible" -- "I am going with the flow of contemporary Cosmology and Astrophysics" He uses the Kalam Cosmological Argument as an introduction. After his initial argument, he elaborates and uses the knockdown argument of Morality. 1. Whatever begins...
  2. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] The Evolution Lie

    I think it's a simple misunderstanding we have, here. We should be able to come to an agreement on him. I said he tends to lean towards Evolution, and I never said he was a Creationist. I said "Wrong" because: His knockdown argument is Morality, not Evolution. He doesn't win arguments because...
  3. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] The Evolution Lie

    Wrong, he rarely argues on the basis of Evolution. In fact, he is on record saying he is a layman on the subject but he does have a lean towards Evolution. His specialty is Philosophy, which is why he is able to defeat the arguments of Atheists. Like putting a group of people in the same boat. I...
  4. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] The Evolution Lie

    Atheists call themselves the "brights" too. labeled Insults or labeling ones self pride doesn't mean much intellectually. It only demonstrates character. That's because blanket labels are easily broken down via logical fallacies. Dr. William Lane Craig (Christian Philosopher) seems to be a...
  5. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] The Evolution Lie

    There are many just like Dawkins, too. I am not sure if I would call it a phobia that he has. It's possible though. He clearly has a bias, which was discovered when he said that the only plausible kind of ID only involved Aliens(I am assuming he means that they engineered us and implanted us on...
  6. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] The Evolution Lie

    Dawkins is a funny one. Not many scholars take him seriously anymore. I have seen internet Atheists make more intelligent statements than him.
  7. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    Barb, at least you believe God did it. I have more respect for that then the other option. For the record I am not indoctrinated, and I am always open to accept honest information. I'm sure you know how I would respond. I doubt we will reach an agreement though.
  8. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    Look, I can understand you are upset. I saw the personal attacks and you are unable to hold a conversation at this point. Maybe cool down for a bit and PM me when you are ready. I think I mentioned that 3 times in my last post. Your reaction isn't proving your cause. That is, if I am even...
  9. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    One is a fact, and one isn't. One can be observed, and the other cant. That is the difference. duari remembers Phylogeny: No observable evidence of any kind. I am willing to take your word for it on the bold portion. duari looks: I didn't randomly quote anyone. I quoted a scientist who is...
  10. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    duari checks what he said: If you really want to learn, shoot me a PM and ill talk to you from there. As it is right now the thread has gone off topic. Everything else has been addressed and is settled. Oh, but I have provided evidence. Which is what you aren't looking for. YOU said: "I dont...
  11. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    I never said the facts work in the creationists favor, but proposed that it should be explored and taught as the other option in the public school system. Micro-Evolution is a fact. We can observe it. Creationists don't (and shouldn't) have any problem or dispute about this. Macro-Evolution is...
  12. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    Are you serious? Its not a hunch. I provided evidence and have had you cornered multiple times. What evidence have you presented? Its all fine and dandy to believe there isn't anything going on, but it isnt reality. I showed you that it is a reality, and quite frankly have done nothing but...
  13. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    No, but he is part of the problem. I assure you he is not the only one. You know this. Sure do. Reports vary but I will give you an example. According to the PEW research center.....http://people-press.org/files/legacy-pdf/528.pdf Only %33 of scientists believe in God. 20% for protestant(Who...
  14. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    The same way we ban creation from our public schools?
  15. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    No one is saying we should preach the bible to young students. The scientific view from the creationist standpoint should be represented, though. Rather, the interpretation of the data. Under your description, Evolution wouldn't be taught either. Yes, and I know scientists who are also...
  16. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    Dr. John Hauptman and his efforts to remove Dr. Gonzalez due to his ID views.. Dr. Hauptman elaborated in the movie "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," saying ID'ers are idiots as well as Creationists. Saying that these views are "crazy." So tell me how one would go about providing him...
  17. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    Many would disagree with you here. The point Ham was making was that a lot of the scientific work done in the name of creationism is discounted. While my teacher in Highschool was a heavy spokesman for Evolution, he still taught us the other side of the spectrum. He made sure we understood that...
  18. duari91

    [_ Old Earth _] Bill Nye v AIG Creation Museum

    Kent Ham mentioned something important in the debate (which I did watch the entire debate). He said that it is important to present both sides of the coin, especially when tax dollars are involved. If someone wants to teach that the moon is made of cheese, I am okay with it as long as they are...
  19. duari91

    Evolution Is Religion--Not Science

    Which is why I cited it, like I explained...Maybe it is you who doesn't understand? Wouldn't be the first time. Checking for duari91 saying he denied it: Nope, doesn't seem to exist. I don't think it qualifies as a story. Maybe we can say I was elaborating. Looking at my above post, I never...
  20. duari91

    Evolution Is Religion--Not Science

    My God is powerful enough to preserve the word to be read and understood. Anyone without knowledge of creation/evolution would conclude that God created the world in 6 literal days by reading the bible. You shouldn't have to jump hoops to get the meaning of it. Like I said, I respect the beliefs...
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