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  1. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    RPTE is Greek Orthodox using Byzantine Text. "Inasmuch" is literal so I used it: STE Hebrews 7:20 Καὶ καθ (Matt. 1:1 STE) STE=Stephanus STE Hebrews 9:27 καὶ καθ (Heb. 9:27 STE) But I need a clairification on this one point, then I can address the entire: How did believers die once and need...
  2. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    Hidden polytheism in "G". Explain that. As for 1 Pet 4:6 Clement of Alexandria spend his retirement with the Jewish Bishop of Jerusalem. If his view were rejected by Christians there, we have no record of that. As for Luke 16:19-31, in vs. 26 Abraham says "those who want to pass from here to...
  3. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    Copy paste the precise "rudimentary challenge" I couldn't understand, putting my misunderstanding right beneath it. Stay focused. Lets start with that only.
  4. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    These non threaded boards aren't suited for addressing more than one or two ideas at a time. I will answer you in full, in multiple separate posts, when I have time.
  5. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    We are without excuse but that doesn't require God exterminate the entire human race. He did send Jesus to save us, did He not? However, you cite the "judgment" in Hebrews 9:27 to mean the "condemnation." If that were correct, why does "inasmuch" connect this to the saving sacrifice of Christ...
  6. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    According to the inclusivist view," the Father reaches out to the unevangelized through both the Son and the Spirit via general revelationtion, conscience and human culture. God does not leave himself without witness to any people. Salvation for the unevangelized is made possible only by the...
  7. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    "Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting(05769 עוֹלָם `owlam) righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy. (Dan. 9:24 NKJ)...
  8. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    For the law appoints as high priests men who have weakness, but the word of the oath, which came after the law, appoints the Son who has been perfected forever. (Heb. 7:28 NKJ) What is the intrinsic weakness of men? They are finite beings in spacetime. How is the Son perfect compared to them...
  9. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    The Priesthood of Christ, His offering Sacrifice is not limited by Death: 19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. 20 And inasmuch as He was not made priest without an oath 21 (for they have become...
  10. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    The timelessness of Christ's "Eternal Redemption" also follows from the appearance of Melchizedek, who in analogy is like God the Son, having "neither beginning of days nor end of life": 1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the...
  11. Alfred Persson

    When Christ obtained "eternal redemption" He saved everyone who believes from the foundation of the world

    You proved "whole world" means the population of the entire world, Jew and Gentile. But you left out time. Its not Jew and Gentile in the entire world only in the 1st century when the scriptures were written. It applies to those not yet existing, in the future. By what law of logic then, can we...
  12. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    I don't post for patience, I post for debate, for logical challenges to my proposition. Have a nice day.
  13. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    Is that really why, or was this indefensible: One could be given faith and sealed concurrently.-FastFreddy0 What would Sherlock say about this? Forensically its impossible faith and sealing (regeneration) are concurrent as belief comes first, then salvation: 31 So they said, "Believe on the...
  14. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    On the contrary, this entire thread proves it. Hiding in plain sight was the key Calvin and Arminius missed. Neither realized from God's perspective....there are two versions of everyone born since the foundation of the world. In God's Omniscience (He knows all things), before He created....He...
  15. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    Revelation is not regeneration. Revelation comes first in linear time, the Father reveals, draws. Then saving faith appears, and regeneration occurs. I could be in Russia when my need for God is revealed, I might be drawn to the US for a revival meeting where I believe, have saving faith and...
  16. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    Incorrect. I cited the scripture paradox my construct resolves, elegantly. I can't help you see it, that you must do on your own. Like seeing how Sherlock Holmes infers from events, to facts. It requires skill.
  17. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    If He will NOT blot out overcomers, then He will blot out those who were overcome or the first statement is babble.
  18. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    The puzzle pieces (scripture details) when assembled make a clear picture. Elegance is how I know. If you can't prove the picture inaccurate, then I have nothing to respond to. Doubts, everyone has 'em.
  19. Alfred Persson

    God's plan is so perfect, so complex, shortsighted Arminians and Calvinists just can't fathom it.

    Of course, I made it up to illustrate a point. Go back and reread the context or better, read my reply to Dave in #65 where I quote you. I'd love to discuss the bad logic my "fake scripture" illustrated.
  20. Alfred Persson

    [__ Science __ ] The world's oldest map etched in a clay tablet about 3,000 years ago has the location of 'Noah's Ark'

    Location of 'Noah's Ark' is revealed as scientists decipher world's oldest map on 3,000-year-old Babylonian tablet READ MORE: Archaeologists unlock secrets of 4,000-year-old tablet By Stacy Liberatore For Dailymail.com Published: 14:46 EDT, 28 October 2024 | Updated: 14:52 EDT, 28 October...
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