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    The abomination of desolation

    Yes, you are right, SOME WILL be deceived - but WHO? The church? Did you MISS THIS? Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Is your name written there? Is mine? All who...
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    The abomination of desolation

    This is so obvious you missed it in passing. The "sudden destruction" is the wrath - of which we have no appointment. (verse 9) What comes just before the "sudden destruction?" The rapture. We have no appointment with it, and are GONE. But still, since the rapture is the first event of the...
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    The abomination of desolation

    (and then here comes his sincere response! :screwloose ) Perhaps you can explain how the judgement of the nations will come off with NO HUMANS on the earth? Ah! They really ARE sheep and goats!! This is TOO FUNNY! Jesus is going to judge real GOATS. It MUST be, because Elijah tells us there...
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    are we in the middle of the 6th seal?

    For the readers, John has shown us conclusively that he writes and MEANS to write, in a very chronological manner. After all it was JOHN with the Holy Spirit that CHOSE to number the seals, and the trumpets, and the vials and the woes. Just knowing this much should lead one to believe that the...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Could 'i' be wrong? ;) Surely! But the Word of God is NOT. And They, ALL THREE lay it out CLEARLY in just Jer. 4:23-27's few short verses! Also DOCUMENTED in ECCL. 3:15 that there is NOTHING NEW! And They even DOUBLE DOCUMENTED [[TRUTH]] as seen in Gen. 41:32. And ALL OF THIS IS FROM A GOD...
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    The abomination of desolation

    One must filter any such Old Testament passage through the New Testament for a clear understanding. The earth was without form and void in Genesis 1. And before Adam was created, there was no man. Your problem is, you cannot find this theory in Revelation, the most complete thesis on the end...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Elijah, I am sure you are mistaken; Christ comes for the rapture ("living righteous" and dead in Christ) about 7 years BEFORE He comes in glory, where every eye will see Him. One verse says his feet will touch down, and he will come back just as they saw Him go; another verse shows Him coming on...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Sorry, but you are not correctly dividing the word of truth. Jesus was not talking about the church: He was talking to Jewish men about the end of THEIR age, DANIEL's 70th week. Can you find Gentiles somewhere in DANIEL's 70th week? It is not for us or about us. End times scriptures are about...
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    The abomination of desolation

    When someone says, "it means...." we need to be on the alert. Veteran wrote, There is no doubt, we don't want to be the ones "taken" in Luke. It seems their spirit is snatched right out of their bodies, and the bodies become bird food. But is this speaking of the rapture as Veteran is...
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    The abomination of desolation

    If you think there will be no torture during the tribulation, you are sadly mistaken. Of course the Beast will do ANYTHING to get people to deny their God. John was boiled in oil. So that is to be expected. Of course, Satan will be behind it, trying to get believers to accept the mark, because...
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    The abomination of desolation

    I guess we have trouble reading? Psalm 78:41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel. Question: was God limited? answer: YES. Who limited Him? Israel limited Him. How did they limit Him? With their unbelief. Matthew 13:58 And he did not many mighty works...
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    are we in the middle of the 6th seal?

    You have a great imagination. But really, few will believe you unless you can explain what happened some time in history at the first trumpet, second trumpet, third trumpet, etc. I can hardly wait to hear your explanation of the 6th trumpet. Good luck with that one! But, you will find even...
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    The abomination of desolation

    oh, Onelove, if you could only believe the bible! There have been dispensations, where God dealt with man differently. But in all dispensations up to the end, Satan has been the "god of the world." God has been outside looking in, so to speak. Do you undestand that God's will has NOT BE...
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    The abomination of desolation

    There is no need for confusion: Paul said, "at the last trump." From these words, we know there was more than one trumpet blast: it seems there was a SERIES of trumpet blasts, and Paul was zeroing in on the last of a series. Such a series is found here: And in the seventh month, on the first...
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    The abomination of desolation

    You are hopelessly confused. But don't worry; if you believe you will see the Beast, you surely will, for God will let you have what you are believing in. He is coming for those looking for His coming. Since you are not looking, you probably will not even hear the trumpet. But those of us...
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    The abomination of desolation

    You want to rewrite 1 Thes. 4:17, and John 14:1-3. How is that working for you? Apparentely you have no understanding of dispensations. Do you undertstand that God has been LIMITED in what He could accomplish on earth, for the last 6000 years? Do you understand why? Satan has been the god of...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Well, it is a sad thing that EVERYONE does not come to Christ, for "He is not willing that any should parish..." Acts 14:19 And there came thither certain Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and having stoned Paul, drew him out of the city, supposing he had been dead...
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    The abomination of desolation

    That is all theory, but does it follow the scriptures? It does not. Paul shows us another taking, or snatching away, in 1 Thes 4:17. And you can be sure it is the good guys that are snatched, for they are "in christ." John shows us that the midpoint of the week is in chapter 11, for we see the...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Strange, I believe in a pre-70th week rapture, yet I don't believe any of that stuff. We are grafted in, as an unnatural branch. But Paul writes that we will not take place in the "sudden destruction" because we have no appointment with His wrath. Coop
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    The abomination of desolation

    I just showed you many verses, but they do take a little bit of understanding. Was the quote from 1 Thes 4:17 not clear enough for you? oh! You needed me to quote this verse to, so you could READ where Jesus comes: so sorry: 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with...
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