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    The abomination of desolation

    Paul knew that his tribulation was not the great tribulation. 1 Thes 1 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and...
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    The abomination of desolation

    I cannot explain why I am all thumbs and somehow hit keys that delete what I have written, but I do it over and over again. I have torn off the keys on the lower right of my keyboard for that very reason. Now I have lost all that I wrote, and must begin again. I have always said that context...
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    The abomination of desolation

    By all means, SHOW us where Matthew tells us those taken are destroyed! Please Prove to us by scripture WHAT event takes place AFTER the tribulation. Did I not write, "It seems to me to be talking about the same event as Luke: the coming of Jesus?" Yes, I did write that. Therefore, please tell...
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    The abomination of desolation

    There are two times that the bible speaks of "one taken" and one left: Matthew and Luke. Luke makes it plain in his verses that those taken are the evil ones. I believe this is the parable of the tares taking place. The ones in Matthew don't give any hint of who is taken and who is left. Many...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Onelove, the end of THEIR age, the 70th week of Daniel is still future to us today: God is not finished with the Jews: He has made promised to them that will certainly be kept. The reason the rapture is not found in the 70th week of Daniel is self explanitory: that week is for the Jews, not for...
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    Are the 144,000 Christian?

    Sorry, but "Jew" became the title for people of any tribe: Speaking of Paul, of the tribe of Benjemin. Acts 19:34 But when they knew that he was a Jew, all with one voice about the space of two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians. And Paul calls Himself a Jew: Acts 21:39 But...
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    The abomination of desolation

    :rolling You are a great sourse of amusment! :rolling I think it was Socrates that said, the ills of the whole world are caused by those who think they know, when, in fact, they don't. Daniel 11:20 is speaking of: Seleucus IV Philopator, of the ancient Seleucid Empire. He was well known as...
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    The abomination of desolation

    "Saints" as a word in the KJV was used 34 times (if I counted correctly) in the Old Testament, before Jesus came. It seems clear that God disagrees with your theories. There was certainly some of the book of Daniel that they did understand. it was only the far distant prophecies that were...
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    The abomination of desolation

    How strange that you forget the OLD Testament. Did you forget? Deuteronomy 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. God made them holy "on credit," knowing...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Sorry, but Daniel was not written to you first: it was written to Jews. Hundreds of years before the Messiah even came. Why is it you have such an urge to see the church in things back then? I hope you understand that means it would be hundreds of years before Daniel's sins could be removed. As...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Onelove, the Holy Spirit will always be everywhere. Of course He will still be here on earth. What is removed is His ability to work through believers using their authority. Because the church, with the anointing that is upon them, will be "taken out of the way." The rapture is not to be found...
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    are we in the middle of the 6th seal?

    The Lord's day: "?? ???????? ?????" or "EN TH kuriakh hmera" or "kyriakos h?mera" "On the Lord's day" Adam CLark Commentary: "The Lord's day The first day of the week, observed as the Christian Sabbath, because on it Jesus Christ rose from the dead; therefore it was called the Lord's day, and...
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    The abomination of desolation

    You are the one that desires to be left behind, not me. Millions will turn to God during the 70th week and they too (no suprise here ) will be called "saints." Can you PROVE they are a part of the "church?" According to the verses above, MOST of them will be put to death. No one really knows...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Does anyone question God's power? I don't think so. But, neither is God a liar. Neither is God a respector of persons. If it was His plan to remove you - and you chose, of your own will, to stay, is that His problem? Why is it you ignore what God has plainly written? What you have written is in...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Why would you ignore such clear scriptures? First, to WHOM is God's wrath pointed? Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for...
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    are we in the middle of the 6th seal?

    2nd half continued: Indeed, chapters 17 and 18 ARE about the destruction of Babylon. But John shows Jesus coming AFTER the final vial ends the week. Please note, John begins chapter 19 with the familiar, "1And after these things." As I said before, these two chapters are a microscope view of...
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    are we in the middle of the 6th seal?

    For the readers, perhaps the confusion is only with Veteran. It is very plain that the 6th seal is in chapter 6, NOT CHAPTER 19. Please notice the way John writes: After he has written the letters to the churches, he writes, "After this." Are these not chronological words? Rev 7:1 "1And...
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    The abomination of desolation

    You can fuss all you want, but there WAS another covenant BEFORE Jesus came. NONE from that covenant were a part of the body of Christ while they lived. None were born again while they lived. People lived and people died under that covanant. It was with the same God, but with a different set of...
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    The abomination of desolation

    Of course He is. But how does this answer my post? If Jesus did not rise, then our faith is in vain. Coop
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    The abomination of desolation

    Onelove, I don't want to reinvent the wheel. This has been done many times: Here is one: http://www.bibleprophesy.org/15differences.htm Coop
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