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  1. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    "If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God." (Hebrews 10:26 NIV) Who is the "we" in this sentence? Obviously an actual...
  2. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Jethro Bodine, in short, do you think your exegesis below refers to those who are described in Matt. 13? Do you think those who "last only a short time" and "quickly fall away" have "willfully trampled on the blood"? Jethro wrote: "No faith in the blood means no more on going one-time offering...
  3. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    And...we're back to demonic possession and lack of responsibility for our own actions. :horse Any exegesis on Heb. 11? Gen. 12? Any?....Bueller...Bueller...
  4. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Do you think it's possible for a person to regress from "the faith that justifies...that he got by that believing" to "faith that does not make a person righteous (i.e. trusting God for this week's food)"? You seem to be agreeing with me here, that if a person goes from an "obedient, trusting...
  5. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Got it. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, no matter who he was, how sane he was, how ironic it is that he complained about "groups " being insane yet he became insane himself (Edited, ToS 2.2, attempting to sway existing threads toward a discussion or debate that is may be viewed as ‘Catholic’...
  6. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    You know, the funny part is that this "individual" went insane, which says a lot about his opinion of "groups, parties, nations and epochs". He is looking upon these normal, natural human things with a diseased mind. Funny "peculiar", not funny "ha-ha". His life was sad, really.
  7. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Ok, so you like the quote? You know he was an anti-Christian, atheist who coined the term "God is dead"?
  8. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Might I ask you a personal question, totally off topic? Why do you quote Nietzsche in your Signature? “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” – Friedrich Nietzsche
  9. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Your "citings" didn't address the verses I posted at all, as anyone can see here. The Process Of Justification It was just a bunch of verses mingled with your typical we-are-possessed-by-demons-so-aren't-responsible-for-our-own-actions rhetoric. When you're ready to actually address the OP...
  10. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    All of you can think what you want about "this thread" and the irrefutable Biblical logic contained within, but until you actually take a stab at exegesis of the verses provided that prove Abraham was justified in Gen. 12, you are all simply engaging in opinionated rock throwing. The only person...
  11. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Remember what we are talking about here. It's not about whether a person has to have "works attached" to their obedient, trusting faith at initial justification, but that if the "works" cease and the "obedience" ceases and the "trust" ceases won't the justification cease also? If all a person...
  12. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    :thumbsup
  13. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    That is part of it, but the "lack of faith" I see EVERYWHERE goes further, but not to outright apostasy, which is what I think the author of Hebrews is talking about. Some people just kind of fade away (which is a better term than "fall away", I think) from their initial conversion all the time...
  14. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    And if it has no "works attached" it is not a faith that justifies, correct?
  15. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    This just shows how tiny of a grasp you have on what the argument actually is. At the beginning of this thread I tried to get a simple yes or no answer out of you on whether you thought Abraham was justified in Gen. 12. You still haven't answered because your, shall we say "unique", doctrine...
  16. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Yeah...OK. You know there are apostates who are living, right? There are people walking around breathing who were once devout Christians and now hate Christ.
  17. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Do you mean actually cease to live, like stop breathing?
  18. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    If faith has to have "works attached" to justify, doesn't that simply mean that if there are no "works" there is no justification, even if there is faith? That would make the faith "dead" and unable to justify, right? So then, it's both/and, not either/or. Aren't we all really saying the same...
  19. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    More opinion. Try a little exegesis, Ezra.
  20. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    So, if a person stops believing, he ceases to be justified. Will mere lack of faith be enough to never be able to be justified again, or does it have to be blatant apostasy...or do you not see a difference? If a person loses his faith, and therefore his justification because the "care of this...
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