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  1. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Because the Truth is important to me. A more relevant question would be, why doesn't it matter to you? If someone presents a Biblical principle and it differs from yours, don't you think it's possible you are wrong? And if you are wrong on a point as important as whether justification is a...
  2. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Both can not be true at the same time, that's why it's a faulty translation. "For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy." (NIV) The way the NIV translates makes no sense. Jesus has "made perfect forever" people who He is still making holy. Either perfection...
  3. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Well, against my doctrine anyway. You certainly have not addressed Heb. 11:3-7, which I have been harping on since the beginning of this thread, nor have you addressed Rom. 4:13, which applies to Gen. 12 and says "...through righteousness". Simply either copy and paste your exegesis of the...
  4. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    My point is, there are no "trump verses". Proper exegesis doesn't work that way.
  5. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Really? Please read my previous post and then tell me that Hebrews 11 is about "commendable faith". "Heir of righteousness", Enoch being taken to Heaven and all that. BTW, what is your definition of "commendable faith" and where do you find this concept in Scripture?
  6. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    So did Abraham's in Gen. 12. I was pretty busy this week and couldn't be as thorough in my posts as I wanted to be. I'll try and give as much detail as I can here. Paul says that Abraham was justified in Gen. 15:6. He talks about a point in time, he doesn't use the words "Genesis 15:6", he...
  7. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    ???
  8. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Of course not. You are not held accountable for what you don't know or what you don't (or can't) understand. However, if you are capable of understanding and choose to turn a blind eye, it might not damn you to eternal hellfire, but you will be lacking in knowledge of God and seeing the world...
  9. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    It's both "are sanctified" and "are being sanctified", depending on context. You were fine with the KJV and the NASB (which you always use here), which both say "are sanctified" in the last three(?) posts. Now, when you have it pointed out to you that "are sanctified" refers to the afterlife...
  10. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    You have made exactly one comment (that I remember) concerning Heb. 11 as a whole, and that was an attempt to refute my point that "the entire chapter is about justifying faith". In response, you posted v.3 which says: "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of...
  11. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Right past me? LOL...My reason for posting about James 2 went right past you. Do you really think I was introducing a discussion about James all of a sudden? The reason I posted this was because it could be looked upon as a "trump verse" on the nature of justification, and that you would find it...
  12. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Oh that's right. I had forgotten. We're equal to God, "equivocation" and all that. We went down this road already. You and I can not even talk about Abraham and how he was justified without first having an entire conversation about sin, the need for justification and the nature of Man. These...
  13. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    How so?
  14. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    What a coincidence, mine too. Although mine has much more to say on the subject of justification.
  15. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    I do think that righteousness is infused into the person, that God actually makes a person just, not just looks at him as just. I would balk at a theology that has God creating some people for Heaven and some for Hell (if this is where you are going). I reject both Luther's "snow covered dung...
  16. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Do you mean that he was simply righteous by his own merits, born that way, and God just recognized it?
  17. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    If you're asking me, the premise is, was Abraham justified twice. If he was, that means he needed to be, therefore we can lose justification. It's not a once for all deal.
  18. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Yeah, we do. I always wondered what games He was good at. I know they had them. Probably killed it at hide-and-go-seek.
  19. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    :hysterical If only. Then we could go over and visit His Son. "Can Jesus come out and play?"
  20. dadof10

    The Process Of Justification

    Do you mean are ignorant of facts, or are incapable of understanding the argument?
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