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I agree with a major portion of your post above. I was going to point out that there are always converts from Hinduism to Islam to Christianity to Atheism to any other belief system regardless of upbringing, location and culture. But from the point of view of predictability, when we analyze...

That is not how logic works. You don't start with a conclusion and work your way back to fit a logic into it. That's counter-intuitive. To even apply logic what you first need is data. Without data logic is useless. What our George needs to say is that he just can't find the data/evidence for...

Jayls5 - May be I can indulge a little bit more in our discussion before we give up on the dead horse ;) (or) Scientific testing is incapable of appraising the epistemic levels of faith based beliefs. You are making a typical atheist mistake of "I have a telescope, now show me that...

One of the points in the OP video was that faith leads to nonsensical conclusions where faith in purple unicorn is comparable to faith in God. The reason I chose 'black hole vs MECO' analogy is because with the lack of substantial evidence it is to an extent a faith based decision. The standard...

Jayls5 - I did not gloss over your point even though re-reading my post it does seem that way. My closing statement of agreement with you on the issue reflects the "Thor/Apollo/Tortoise .." hypothesis which are scientifically verifiable and falsifiable. I am not testing for the accuracy of the...

I think it is. If we consider two tentative competing theories for the cosmic particle accelaration we see that "Black Holes" is the most known/accepted versus the "Magnetospheric Eternally Collapsing Objects" based on intersubjectivity of the astrophysicists, though both try to explain the same...

That sounds good in theory where you would want to put faith in a Christian God and the purple unicorn on the same epistemological level but in all reality would you be able to produce any intersubjective verifiability that the Christians can show vs your purple unicorn? I think you should...

"Morals must be biblically derived or Atheists don't have morals" I think it then becomes easy for us to see the flaw in the argument. I agree with jwu and VaultZero4Me in their conclusions.

If I seemed to be burning strawman, I apologize, wasn't my intention. I agree that you do not need to define a creator as a parameter for evolution but I see it as a far stretch to say that a creator wasn't involved. When someone (not saying you) makes such a claim, it isn't based on sound...

The irony here is that the above is not a scientific claim that you so often are so interested in. I do not see evolution making any statement about a "guiding hand" to even start disproving it. If your statement were true I wouldn't find any theistic evolutionist around and the term would just...

Thank you for your kind words Drew. I think we might be close in our thoughts about the issue but there are still little differences. It would be interesting to see how the thread pans out.

I do not think Drew is suggesting 'super'natural guidance. Instead, that we can see the intelligence in the design without adding the clause "god-did-it". I think he is not trying to hypothesize a creator himself but to test evidence for "being created". When Darwin postulated "natural...

What observable evidence do you have of the fourth dimension time's existence? If I give you a watch and tell you to measure the amount of heat produced when I mix HCL with NaOH, will you be able to? Don't you need different right set of apparatus to measure different things? Ok then. What...

Hi unred, been a while. I would try to offend you but you take things easy so I would just be wasting my time :) My thought process a few months ago was very much like what you have posted. But I've come to realize a contradiction of terms in my belief. Free-will and sin. If sin requires...

Take your time in your responses handy. I understand how hard it is to get some spare time with family around. For the question, "who is the captor that required the shedding of blood", we need to look at Matthew 21:33-46. (Parable of the evil tenants) When the King sent His Son to collect the...

No offense taken handy and I hope you wouldn't find my response aggressive either. As you have noted, that I pick and choose the scriptures, but I would like to remind you of what happened a very long time ago when scriptures were picked and chosen during the so called canonization. The...

Thanks for the question handy. Helps me strengthen or revise my views. In Matthew 9:5 we see that Jesus said, "Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’?". See how easier it was to forgive someone of their sins by simple words of...

Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. To whom is a ransom paid? If God is the one that required "the life in the blood" for the payment of sins, then Jesus paid ransom to God. Again, to whom is ransom paid? To...

And thus the question "what is it in the shedding of blood that somehow washes sin?" becomes a non sequitur (if what appears to be true is indeed true).

I've been discussing a topic that is very similar to your question, on a different DB Orion. I am going to try to make it short and simple for you. What God has to say about bloody sacrifices? Isaiah 1:11 "To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices to Me?" Says the Lord. "I have had...