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Now you have to make me understand what is 'works' rather I don't say it as "works" but as "Obedience to the Word" Again you go wrong. Baptism is not optional, same with the breaking of bread. The commandments of God must not be forsaken for convenience. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday...

I have great formula which may prick you a bit but it's good for your edification. Salvation = Grace + Faith + Obedience to Word

I know that grace means every thing to me but for grace preachers it means salvation to them. What type of church are we building. Weak, feeble, world centered? or Strong, zealous, Christ centered? When grace preachers say Salvation is only by grace and all things you do thereafter are...

I just want to prove that it's not just believing but continue to believe till the end of your life and not just believing but also walking in the way of God. Something like discipleship of Jesus Christ. Imitating Christ.

yeah you are right. I was just proving John 3:36 has something more to do with than just believing as Grace preachers quote. And that was my point. If it was just believing then even demons do believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God. Please take my points in the right sense. you have well...

Didn't get the point. Can you be more specific?

I have proved that demons believe that Jesus Christ is Lord.

may be you must also look into literacy of Peter. He was just a fisherman. I think all scriptures are penned down by the Holy Spirit and the writers were just vessels of God. You can differ from my opinion but I haven't any problem in that but I will stick to my belief in the Holy Spirit...

James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Matthew 8:29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?

It's necessary because you weren't created like a computer where God instructs few commands and you will dance to His tunes but rather you have your own choice of choosing heaven and hell.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.(KJV) Now even demons believe in Jesus Christ the Son and are they going to have everlasting life? This verse has something more to do than...

Yeah when will He do it? I think only when we are yielded to him. When we know him more and more. When we surrender ourselves to him leaving the devil our father and be joined to our Groom which is Christ

No I didn't say that. I said those who watchfully wait for his coming will take the first flight and rest all who just believe that Jesus is their personal saviour and do nothing will face persecution and get saved in the end.

Don't agree with your indirect mocking of work based salvation. There is nothing called work as you mention. When we sit in prayer, it's by grace and faith we come before his presence. There aren't always goose bumps every time or real literal manifestation of God. We believe that God is in the...

The infilling of the Holy Ghost is not automatic. I think JLB explained you clearly about an incident happened in the book of Acts "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" So they said to him, "We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Spirit." Acts 19:2 And when Paul...

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Your argument can be broken because "All Israel getting saved" is a separate issue and it can't be clubbed into this 10 virgins theory. God is going to save all Israel not because they were Israelites but because He hath made an oath to their forefather Abraham. John 3:16's "whosoever" states...

Exactly! Very much in agreement with your point. Even when they fellowship with God daily they don't think they are some superman because of what they do but they do it because that they may know Him and the power of His resurrection. I don't understand how those believing in God and fellowship...

It's true that everyone is saved by grace through faith but it's not a one time experience. Hear the gospel on a TV and accept Jesus Christ as your Personal Saviour and go on your way doing worldly activities. I think the preacher which I quoted is talking about these kind of people who will be...

But in the parable of virgins. All 10 were virgins. So how do you differentiate them? They were of the body of Christ but 5 were left alone. When Christ compares church to a body with Christ as head. It's is well understood that it's lead by the head. We know that all actions we do in your body...