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Why should I not assume regeneration is permanent. Where in the bible was anyone unregenerated, unjustified, unredeemed, etc? Replies like this one is the reason I suggest that many views of salvation are inconsistent with salvation by grace alone. It would have been correct to say that we...

My argument had everything to do with Gods ability to save by himself by grace alone. Those who believe in OSAS and argue for their own meritorious faith and those who believe they can keep themselves saved by their own meritorious works might claim that God has ability to save, but they do so...

Deborah, there are Two parties in the verse. Jerusalem-----The first party is the leaders in Jerusalem. These leaders killed the prophets. thy children-----Second party is the children of Jerusalem, the common people in Jerusalem. God would have gathered them together but the will of the...

I most likely would not use terminology like "once saved always saved," and I am not sure I would totally agree with the community of believers that uses that terminology. In the end, I personally see little difference between the two groups (the OSAS and the non-OSAS). One the other hand, I...

I am going to make a post here even though my intent is not to join the debate. Of course I am not making promises here. What I want to say is that the doctrine of the trinity is one of the most amazing things to ponder about God. It makes God so unlike us, so distant and yet so intimate, so...

Well said. Without the doctrine of the trinity, what a person "knows" is not the one true God.

The fact that you do not know if I wrote this post demonstrates your fallibility. I know I wrote this posts, and I am the infallible judge of the fact that I wrote this post. As far as comments like "You must be joking..." Do you really want to raise the emotional level of the conversation...

Francis, just think about what you saying a little before posting. You raise the question of history. History has infallible truths. I can write. That is present tense. It is demonstrated by this post. Historically, I have written 100s (or more) posts in these threads. You can dispute...

Here, you compare apples and oranges. I wrote what I wrote to demonstrate that an infallible truth can be fallibly known. The truth that I wrote this post is infallible, the truth that I wrote this post is also fallibly known by the mods. This is of value to the mods, and even to you, even...

You did not even deal with the illustration I gave. Francis, do you really consider this an appropriate reply?

Nope, the "very fact" that the Bible is infallible does not indicate that I or anyone else possesses that same infallibility. That is a mere assumption on your part. I already gave an illustration of how this works. Let me repeat the same illustration that you ignored. How would the mods of...

Later, I will be back, but I am not sure when I can check in.

Of course you can have an infallible book and have other people fallibly know that the book was written by the correct person. As an illustration: If I could write something infallible (which I am not claimining) and post it on this forum, the stuff I wrote would be infallible. Now the admin...

No, Eugene was totally correct. The word graphe speaks of Sacred Scriptures in 2 Peter. The fact that Paul wrote more than what we have is irrelevant to the context of that passage. It is actually a joke to think otherwise. So other Christians wrested Pauls grocery shopping list to their...

No, it was not intended as ad-hominem, but yes, I think you are clueless concerning the transmission of written manuscripts of the NT. One of the reasons you might have difficulty is you do not read greek, and therefore do not understand some of the reasons for the variants. What you write...

Eugene is totally correct in that the word "Scriptures" in 2Peter 3:16 can be none other than the OT scriptures. When he refers to Pauls epistles not talking about some letter Paul sent home to momma, it his Epistles to the Churches, or the epistles in the bible. Why would any other of Pauls...

Francis, first, your reply does not demonstrate that you grasped what I said. Your reply is non-sequitur and has little to do with my statement. I am not suggesting you did this on purpose, I think you simply do not know anything about the passing down of manuscripts. Because you know nothing...

In your statement above, this is typical of the way your reading my statements. Of course your reading too many things wrong. This broad brushing things in your statements demonstrate that your not grasping the issue. Yes, I consider certain people authorities. Why would I have a problem...

Francis, I am going to forgo commenting on some of the stuff of yours I skipped.... your turn next. Gotta go again, catch you later.

Francis, how many times have I said the Church has NOT passed down either written or oral infallible tradition? No matter how many times I say this, you always answer saying I said it. I am making direct statements that I deny that that the scripture is infallibly passed down either orally or...