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  1. Alfred Persson

    Annihilationism, do the Wicked Perish?

    d. The deity of the Son. The deity of the Son was denied in the early Church by the Ebionites and the Alogi, and also by the dynamic Monarchians and the Arians. In the days of the Reformation the Socinians followed their example, and spoke of Jesus as a mere man. The same position is taken by...
  2. Alfred Persson

    The Origin of Satan and his demons

    You could be right. "Dared not" as its used in the NT elsewhere doesn't arise because of comparative strength. I recalled Peter's comment which seems to refer to the same people, its reference to angelic power, and assumed Michael's action was explained by relative strength. That assumption...
  3. Alfred Persson

    Annihilationism, do the Wicked Perish?

    No one professes the Trinitarianism you describe. Its obvious you skimmed an article on the subject, and misunderstood even that minor treatment.
  4. Alfred Persson

    [__ Science __ ] Noahs Flood explained and Evolution refuted.

    I am shocked. Usually you have more going for your argument, and don't misstate what other believe. YE creationists DO NOT consider the variety of eyes, examples of transition from one to another. AND each of these "eye kinds" are very complex, from DNA up. AND it follows God would give each...
  5. Alfred Persson

    Soul Sleep yes or no?

    Too bad you widened the scope from soul sleep to other things. I will ignore everything but that. While I don't think the dead are "asleep", I wonder if aspects of sleep are true of some. For the righteous, the passage of time until the resurrection may go unnoticed. Yet they are still...
  6. Alfred Persson

    [__ Science __ ] Noahs Flood explained and Evolution refuted.

    Variety in eyes testifies to a versatile creator, from my point of view. You assume those are transitional, they seem to fit and serve each organism well. They aren't "transitional." Each of those "eyes" fits my argument, they all are complex. How could a single one of them evolve from nothing...
  7. Alfred Persson

    Jehovah's Witnesses deny Jesus' promise to the thief: "Today you will be with me in paradise"

    Sorry, don't know what "dunked by John to be forgiven" means, or who thought Jesus needed to repent. The other thief was just a mocker.
  8. Alfred Persson

    Annihilationism, do the Wicked Perish?

    Cracker Jack box Trinitarianism? Who believes such odd ideas about the Holy Trinity. What denomination?
  9. Alfred Persson

    Jehovah's Witnesses deny Jesus' promise to the thief: "Today you will be with me in paradise"

    Neither did I, God alone has immortality. But souls survive physical death. Scripture describes souls under the altar in heaven: 9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they...
  10. Alfred Persson

    Jehovah's Witnesses deny Jesus' promise to the thief: "Today you will be with me in paradise"

    I'm sorry. Can't see the connection between Christ rewarding the Thief for his faith in Christ at a time when faith was contradicted by everything happening, and loving enemies.
  11. Alfred Persson

    Annihilationism, do the Wicked Perish?

    Logic is never irrelevant, or silly. Its either "sound" or "unsound". But straw men arguments are silly. Of course Christ wasn't "caught up to third heaven", He's omnipresent God the Son, never ceased being there. He was waiting for the thief, to welcome him after he died. As for Jesus' human...
  12. Alfred Persson

    Jehovah's Witnesses deny Jesus' promise to the thief: "Today you will be with me in paradise"

    I agree Paul was looking for his crown in Christ's Kingdom, after the resurrection. Crowning a soul in paradise is premature. Paul was looking forward to being in paradise with Christ, immediately after he died: 6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are...
  13. Alfred Persson

    [__ Science __ ] Noahs Flood explained and Evolution refuted.

    One of the most powerful arguments against Evolution I ever heard, convinced me (then agnostic/atheist) that perhaps evolution was incorrect. Its a simple argument, perhaps you can "refute it". It springs off the idea of "survival of the fittest", that mutations beneficial to an organism aid...
  14. Alfred Persson

    Why does God punish the people who commit suicide instead of helping them when they were suicidal?

    God can forgive suicide just as He does other sins: 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which...
  15. Alfred Persson

    John MacArthur UNFIT to be a Minister Of the Bible!

    I disagree with JM on many things, but these are in areas where Christians have always disagreed. I consider JM and his church to be honest servants of Jesus Christ. Its expected faithful Christians will be attacked, just as Christ was, without true cause.
  16. Alfred Persson

    What To Make Of Hohn Cho Versus Grace Community Church?

    The speaker at Evangelical Dark Web questions the GCC's decision to purge all of Hohn Cho's sermons on their site, hinting there may be nefarious reasons. However, if a speaker is no longer associated with the Church, there may be legal reasons to stop using his material. To not purge his...
  17. Alfred Persson

    John MacArthur UNFIT to be a Minister Of the Bible!

    A counter view can be found here: https://christianforums.net/threads/what-to-make-of-hohn-cho-versus-grace-community-church.105049/
  18. Alfred Persson

    What To Make Of Hohn Cho Versus Grace Community Church?

    Ultimately Hohn Cho has charged GCC to “do justice” with Eileen Gray who was excommunicated using Matthew 18 on the basis of unsubstantiated refusal to reconcile her marriage. If Eileen Gray never confided anything that David Gray would eventually be charged with and refused to cooperate with...
  19. Alfred Persson

    Jehovah's Witnesses deny Jesus' promise to the thief: "Today you will be with me in paradise"

    I told you all but Rotherham had the comma before today. But reading it in context, realizing both Jesus and the Thief would die in a few hours, it "naturally, organically" means "today you will be with me in paradise" 39 And, one of the suspended evil-doers, began to defame him--Art not...
  20. Alfred Persson

    Jehovah's Witnesses deny Jesus' promise to the thief: "Today you will be with me in paradise"

    Jesus is God the Son; His Person subsists in two natures, infinite Divine, finite human. The finite human soul of Jesus went to hades/sheol when His body died; the infinite God the Son never ceased to be everywhere, including "paradise in third heaven". Jesus is One Person subsisting...
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