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Acts 2:38 clearly tells how and when one receives the Holy Spirit. God bless

Hi Chester Two kinds of rock, check it out. Study it. Couldn't have been built on Peter. No, Jesus did not give the keys to Peter alone, keep reading. God bless, duval

Folks Jesus didn't build His church on Peter or any man. He built it upon Himself. There is a difference, a big difference between Peter's name Cephas and the word rock. The original is very plain on that. God bless duval

Perhaps I should ask, when do we become new creatures since you say that is when He begins His work in us. When do we become new creatures?

I don't know what you when you say they begin when Christ begins His work in us. Just when does Christ begin that work?

So, then, you are saying that faith or belief includes repentance. Is it inclusive of anything else?

Does that faith include for example repentance? Repentance is not mentioned in your answer. If repentance is included, its an inclusive faith. To which do you refer?

Is that a generic faith?

Rom.10:16: "But they have not all obeyed the gospel." II Thess.1:8: "---taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:" I am compelled to ask again, how does one obey the gospel? Paul says its something that can be obeyed! God bless, duval

Bunyan has defined the gospel: I Cor.15:1-4. True!! In a nutshell, thats IT. Now, how do I obey the gospel? God bless, duval

Elf, define "gifts" in Rom.11:29.-------------back to you

You are correct that we are called by God through the Gospel. That is rerrevocable.

Hi Jasoscran You have a mind and especially a soul too precious to be lost th osas. My eyes grow dim and cannot stay long on the internet at a time, but you seem interested in Heb.6. May I suggest you study this in the context it was given, to Jews who became Christians and were contemplating...

Hi Elf Yes the gifts and calling of God adre irrevocable, Rom.11:29. However you may have interpreted this for less than it means. For example, how does God call us?

Somehow my last post didn't get posted. Oh well, I didn't have time anyway. What I shall say on this post is that there is no "sinners prayer" in the Bible.

Hi folks All that "ain't that the truth" folksy stuff in the last several posts and--------------no scriptiure!

Folks not only didn't Augustine etc., not teach it but neither did Jesus and His apostles.

Hi Bunyan Its not a question of how many believe this and that or how many and who do not. The question is: What does the Blble teach! duval

Thank you Destiny for your post, such is the logical end of the doctrine . God bless, duval

Hi Glorydaz I chose the passages I used because they occurred after the establishment of the church. But of John the baptist and Thomas what conseqquences would there have been for them had they died doubting? God bless, duval