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  1. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    I provided the reference word-for-word from Davis and Kenyon. Are you suggesting they made it up? You didn't answer the question - can homology support common design as well as it supports common ancestry? Or are you also still scratching your head?
  2. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    Which ones are you struggling with - I am here to help. Please be specific. Are you going to present your evidence this time?
  3. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    But they are clear - "present evidence", "this thread", "scientific method" and "man-chimp common ancestry". What more clarification is needed?
  4. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    They are clear - let me know when/if you can present your evidence.
  5. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    Davis and Kenyon presented the facts - are they liars? Is the statement correct that homology supports common design as well as it does common ancestry? If you do not think it is correct then prove it not correct. You cant - can you? You struggle. Ditto above - Davis and Kenyon presented the...
  6. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    I have defined the terms many times - go back and look them up. Mythology, bedtime stories, pseudoscience---all easy terms to understand. Are you going to do what you have boasted you can do or are you going on vacation again?
  7. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    But I showed how it could be correct - again, it is self-evident. You struggle.
  8. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    I already explained it - are you going to commit or just dance? You're dancing - the terms are clear. You are going to walk - yes? It is a straightforward question that only requires a simple answer and you refuse to answer preferring instead to claim you have "no clue". I guess that is as...
  9. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] EVOLUTION - A BELIEVER'S PERSPECTIVE

    Well,, Venter denies common descent and Dawkins can’t believe that he would even question it. Either you are confused or Vetner and Darwkins are confused - I will go with you are confused. You struggle.
  10. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] EVOLUTION - A BELIEVER'S PERSPECTIVE

    LOL - the pseudoscientists said the same thing to Galileo but he was correct and they were wrong. You continue to struggle. The Dissent From Darwinism statement really bothers you - doesn't it? Dissent From Darwinism statement "We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and...
  11. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    You really are afraid to commit. Why? As noted earlier - use your common sense. This is a no-brainer. What part of "present evidence", "this thread", "scientific method" and "man-chimp common ancestry" do you not understand? You are going to walk again - aren't you? I thought so. Ditto above -...
  12. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    Well, is it correct or not? Are you afraid to commit? Give it a shot. I told you the 'terms' many time and many times you walked away. Present evidence on this thread using the scientific method that proves man-chimp common ancestry. Can you do it? Again, are you making the dogmatic claim...
  13. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] EVOLUTION - A BELIEVER'S PERSPECTIVE

    But you did not include the reason she allegedly signed this fictitious list. Does she not know? It is significant and I can easily live with it - obviously you are the one finding it hard to live with. I cited my source--Wikipedia. Why would a scientist the caliber of Venter deny common...
  14. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    But it is not wrong - Davis and Kenyon told you the truth - you just don't like what you hear. You didn't answer the questions - do you have evidence from science that proves man and chimp have a common ancestor? Present it on this thread if you do - if you can't present it we will understand...
  15. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    I did verify the claim - Percival Davis and Dean Kenyon relate that Gould remarked that homology supports common design as well as it does common ancestry. It is a fact - why would Gould deny it? It is what it is.
  16. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    The fact that a common designer could have repeatedly used existing species in situ as the blueprint is outside the scope of current science - that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Are you making the claim that common ancestry is the only explanation for genetic similarity? You can't quite...
  17. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] EVOLUTION - A BELIEVER'S PERSPECTIVE

    Can you name just one Stephanie, tell us what her credentials are and why she signed Steve's 'list'? Again---science is not a 'majority rules'. All of your Steve's can be dead wrong. You struggle. I found it interesting to see that John Craig Venter - "biologist known for being one of the...
  18. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    And you have presented nothing that negates a common designer routinely re-using useful components in different designs. Have you changed your mind - do you now agree that homology supports common design as well as it does common ancestry? As I have routinely noted - a common designer could...
  19. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    I have noted the facts - shared traits, etc support common design as well as common ancestry - thus such traits cannot prove or disprove either. You take the dogmatic position that shared traits can only support common ancestry but you cannot support you error. You failure to do what you think...
  20. zeke

    [_ Old Earth _] Evolution, a theory for apes.

    But shared traits, molecular genetics and the fossil record support common design as well as common ancestry - you lose again.
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