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    Elohiym in Gen 1:1 is not plural of persons

    seems to work for some.
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    Elohiym in Gen 1:1 is not plural of persons

    You haven't kicked me out yet? I am surprised.
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    Follower, I am sorry that you cannot or will not find a life outside of a computer game like Christian Forums. I am even more sorry that you would consider something like being compared to an attack dog a good thing. I ask for fruit and I guess you are it. I cannot think of a more profound...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    follower I took the day to accomplish other things and had time to reflect on our discussions. I have come to some conclusions. I find your approach to this debate forum to be shallow and closed minded. You have not given my post a fair hearing. You have refused to accept any documentation or...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    OR rely on someone who has spent years studying the language and culture of the period. I have done that and when I have posted things about the culture you have outright dismissed them. For example -- the deffinition of "shem" /name in Isa 6 is from Jeff Benner the founder of the Ancient...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    Lots has been said about John 1. Lots of opinions, but what does the actual Greek say? In the Interlinear (http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInte ... _Index.htm) John 1:1 is translated literally: 1:1 In original (beginning) was the saying (word/utterance) and the saying(word/utterance) was...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. The term “name†in this verse is the Hebrew word “shemâ€. The literal...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    I have posted several scriptures showing that good teaching produces good fruit like the building up of the saints and instruction in righteousness. Your doctrine does not do either. Christ talks all through the gospels about judging things and people by their fruits. And yet you dismiss this as...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    so jesus could be human and perform miracles by God flowing through him. I agree. he is not required to be God to perform miracles.
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    thank you for admitting that is section of verse is not conclusive. I appreciate your honesty.
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    sorry missed this post. You admit you do not understand it fully. Jesus as our example is at stake concerning how he did what he did. Are you saying that you do not understand clearly how christ was an example for us? You do not understand fully how Christ overcame temptation? You do not...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    FREE AND FOLLOWER --- this statement carries no weight since it brings into the conversation terms that are not in scripture and that carriy a doctrinal bias. You attempt to use one of the supposed proofs of the trinity to prove the trinity. this is circular reasoning. you cannot logically prove...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    Here is a key passage: Php 2:5 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, Php 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, Php 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    So now that we have ESTABLISHED that this IS about Jesus and that the WORD became flesh, we return right back to the beginning part of the passage where this WORD is WITH GOD and IS God... In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    I refuse to follow YOUR rules...that is an absolute. The passage doesnt need your rules to understand it, friend. It tells us that this Word IS God and then VERY clearly shows that this Word is Jesus Christ. This is my point. These are not my rules. Google hermaneutics and you will find that...
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    Is Jesus considered to be God?

    I admit that John 1 can be difficult to understand, but that is more due to our lack of thinking as the Hebrews did and not as the current Western cultures look at things. Even though John wrote in Greek he still thought and perceived his world and his God from a purely Hebrew way. John and the...
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