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  1. Spockrates

    Confused by Catholicism

    Sorry, I was ill. If you are interested, the discussion is here: http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/catholic-discussion-barbarian-spockrates.52172/ :)
  2. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    I think you're right! Half way there. Just need to know what God's will is in this case. :)
  3. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    Yes, anything we do in our own power is considered garbage in God's sight. But what about the good we do in Christ's power and for his glory? For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. (Ephesians 2:10) Are the good things...
  4. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    I see. So then, are you saying "the power to behave more like Christ" is one cause of salvation?
  5. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    Thank you for those biblical references. I hope you will help me understand how they apply. You see, what I think you are saying is this: 1. God's grace pardons my sin 2. God's grace also changes me within, giving me the power to behave more like Christ 3. I am saved by God's grace alone...
  6. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    TurnOrBurn: I am interested in seriously considering what you have to say about God's wisdom compared to worldly wisdom. If you are interested in discussing the two wisdoms with me, please start a discussion on the topic and let me know when you are ready. Blessings to you. :)
  7. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    Thank you for that post, For His. Jesus' words from Matthew 25 are the only ones I remember from my Catholic education as a child. I left the Catholic Church long ago. I think you are correct that it is God's grace that enables us to love like Christ. I think it is also true that it is God's...
  8. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    I want the truth, Turn. For I do believe all else will burn. Did you know that the ancient Greek for the word philosopher means a lover of truth? For Socrates, I believe these words rang true, don't you? He was the first Greek to teach that there is only one God who Himself is the source...
  9. Spockrates

    Confused by Catholicism

    Or would you like me to start it, Barbarian?
  10. Spockrates

    Confused by Catholicism

    Yes, please. Just start a new discussion here, Barbarian: http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?forums/1-on-1-debates.11/
  11. Spockrates

    Confused by Catholicism

    Thanks, DI. I'll see you there.
  12. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    Not sure I understand. What is a "world of wisdom"?
  13. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    Yes, I think you must be right. :) If grace is any act of God giving generously to us, then giving His Son, and the eternal life that somehow is (or at least accompanies) His Son are examples of what this grace gives. Jesus and everlasting life are what we see when we remove the wrapping...
  14. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    Not so sure this is new, but perhaps not often considered. It seems that Jesus teaches He Himself is God's generous gift, which I'm sure you know: "For God so loved the world that he have his one and only son..." (John 3:16) And I suppose this makes sense. For eternal life, as you said, is...
  15. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    I'm thinking Christ Himself is a gift of grace. If you don't think I'm wrong about this premise, I'll explain why I think wisdom might also be such a gift. :)
  16. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    Yes, indeed, ToB!
  17. Spockrates

    Confused by Catholicism

    Eugene: Just got your invitation to http://www.christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/re-catholicism-discussion-spockrates-eugene.51978/ Than you!
  18. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    No problem. I have three dogs myself. Here is something you might think about while you brush. In John 3, Jesus goes on to say: 19 "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the...
  19. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    And what a heavenly host of undeserved gifts that will be! But I wonder if grace is the generous giving of everything God gives. Or if grace the generous giving of only some things God gives. What do you think? Should we consider some of those God-given things to see if they each classify...
  20. Spockrates

    Bible Study What is Grace?

    Well, it is a belief. But I would not go so far as to say it is my belief--at least, not until I accept it as true and adopt it as my own. Let's see how it fit's into your definition: I think you are saying grace is generously giving. So I wonder, "Giving what? Eternal life? Wisdom? Power...
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