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“Abraham’s Four Seeds†by John G. Reisinger

JM

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This post is just a few notes I made while reading “Abraham’s Four Seeds†by John G. Reisinger. It's not ment to convince anyone of Reisinger's position, I just thought it would be good to discuss some of his points. Forgive spelling mistakes, etc. these are just personal notes.

“Logic is a good mistress, but a very bad master.â€Â

Introduction
- The point is made in the introduction, about the logical fallacy of ‘ether or’ your either a dispensationalist or a covenantalist.
- Reisinger makes a good point about Romanish teaching still remaining in the teachers of the Reformation, Sacralism being one.
- Makes mention about the on going problem in the PCA with Theonomy because the WCF and the Puritan legacy remains on there side.
- Baptists can’t look to the Anabaptists for the doctrines of Grace, they can’t accept dispensationalism as taught in the Scofield Bible and yet they can’t deny the WCF in total.
- The modern Covenant view professed by Covenant theologians are the heirs of the Puritans and therefore Theonomy.
- Pionts JGR makes and I agree with, no system is total consistent with many texts in Scripture, and the same texts force me to accept things offered by other systems.
- It’s a good thing when people examine their presuppositions and admit when they assumed ideas to be truth when in fact there not.

Chapter 1
- Abraham’s justification was used by Paul in Romans 4 to illustrate God’s pattern for saving all believers in all ages.
- From Gen. 12 to Rev. we find the story of Abraham’s seed in the world.
- “5. Christ came into this world "to show mercy to our fathers and to remember His holy covenant, the oath He swore to our father Abraham." (Luke l:72,73)â€Â
- The Gospel is the fulfillment of the Covenant made with Abraham.
- Galatians 3:7 = all who have faith are Abraham’s children, we are blessed with Abraham v.9 because of this faith and Christ died so this blessing might come onto the gentiles v. 14.
- Abraham experienced the justification of faith in the promise of the Gospel (Gal. 3:6-9, 18), we experience the same justification because we are Abraham’s true seed (Gal. 3:29).
- The idea of historic redemption is related to “Abraham and his seed,†only Christ is found in both the Old and New Testaments linking salvation to the seed.
- The major differences between dispensational and covenant approach is related to the idea of Abraham’s seed and what that means, JGR gives a list of questions that help identify the presuppositions of each school.
- When the term dispensationalism is use it means that found in the Scofield Bible, when Covenantalism is used it means the Westminster Confession of Faith.
- Huh, never thought about it but if JGR is correct, both dispey’s and covey’s believe the physical seed are Abraham’s seed. The dispey claims Israel is still in existence but set aside, the covey claims their children are Abraham’s seed. Both make the physical children the heirs.
- “It is rather amazing (and to a Reformed Baptist, amusing as well) to hear a Dispensationalist plead the "unconditional covenant made with Abraham and his seed" as the foundation of his belief in a separate and future purpose for the Nation of Israel, and then hear a Paedobaptist plead the VERY SAME "unconditional covenant made with Abraham and his seed" as the foundation for his infant baptism.â€Â
- Both systems are based upon previous ideas, both systems assume they’re true and then set about defending them and everything seems to fit until you try to prove the presuppositions. That’s when it seems to fall apart.
- In Gal. 3:16 Paul argues for ‘seed’ and not ‘seeds’ and that one seed is Christ.
- “If our theological view holds that the "promise to Abraham and his seed" (singular) involves either the Jews and their physical children or Christian parents and their children, then we are contradicting Paul's statement in Gal 3:16.â€Â
- If we apply Gal. 3:16 to Christian parents or Jews, it voids Paul’s argument, and contradicts the promise to the seed of Abraham because it has nothing to do with physical birth…but faith.
- True faith and not birthright determined salvation.
- Renewal by the Holy Ghost due to electing work of Grace is the only way one can access the promise made by Abraham (Romans 9:11, 23-24; Hebrews 6:13-15).
- Thing Promised: seed, nation, land / Physical Fulfillment: Isaac, Israel, Palestine / Spiritual Fulfillment: Christ as the true seed, Church as the true nation, Salvation rest as the true land.

Chapter 2
- Abraham has four distinct seeds listed by the author: 1. natural seed/progeny, 2. special seed/Jacob chosen not Esau for God’s purposes in redemption, 3. spiritual seed, 4. unique seed which is Christ.
- Dispy’s and Covey’s both mix #’s 2 and 3.
- The nature seed has no advantage over the true, spiritual seed of Abraham. The idea that one is born into covenant is false. Romans 3:1,2
- The Jew had many advantages according to the strict “preaching†of the Gospel, but their spiritual station before God didn’t change based upon this and just as a child of a believer today shares in the teaching of the Gospel the status remains the same until the spiritual rebirth happens.
- We find both “Esau’s†and “Jacobs†or unbelievers and believers born into covenant homes, one is loved and regenerated the other hated.
- It should be noted that God compares two nature seeds of Abraham with only one being an heir to the promise, covenant born means little in terms of salvation.
- “We must remember that the legal covenant at Sinai was not given to regenerated and justified believers to "aid them in sanctification." Most of those people were not regenerate. The law covenant was laid on the conscience of a generation of blind rebellious sinners to convict them of their unbelief and to kill their hope in their own righteousness! That covenant only ministered grace as it effected the knowledge of sin and spiritual death in an Israelite's heart and led him to faith in the gospel covenant given to Abraham.â€Â
- The Mosaic covenant was a death sentence (II. Cor 3:6-9 and Rom. 7:9,10) to the people described in Deut. 29:4 and Heb. 3:18 - 4:2. This covenant is Gracious but in purpose, to show this prideful people their sin and pride, and then to kill it.
- The one covenant with two administrations after Gen. 3:15 is then destroyed.
- Quote: “The nation of Israel is not the body of Christ, even though the body of Christ is the true Israel.†This statement helps to make sense of both the covey and dispey view of Israel in a much more Biblical manner, for the covenant theologian can’t accept the first part of the statement and the dispensationalist can’t aept the last. Humm…
- We can’t find one verse that teaches the “Covenant of Works†or the “Covenant of Grace,†not one. I find this troubling.

Chapter 3
- Ishmael, Esau and Jacob were all true sons according to the flesh and therefore circumcised.
- It was Jacob (who latter become Israel) that took hold of the promises by faith, Ishmael and Esau did not. Jacob held a unique place within redemptive history.
 
Chapter 4
- The true spiritual seed of Abraham are all true believers in every age, “And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.â€Â
- JGR gives the following:
Abraham’s Spiritual Seed
1. the “election of grace†– Romans 11:5, 9:23:26
2. the “saved†of all ages – Galatians 3:24-29
3. “the Bride of Christ†– Revelations 21:1-3, 9-4
- I agree with this teaching, that God cannot say to the Church what He said to Israel and visa versa, the N.C. was made possible by the blood of Christ 1 Cor. 11:24-26.
- The believer under the New Covenant is in a better position because of what Christ did; we have eternal security for one example. The obligations of the New Covenant are met for sure (Heb. 7:22), and the New Covenant community is guarantee with the promise, that the Holy Ghost will work obedience within the believer.
- The Mosaic Covenant contains “IF’s.†The idea the author is making is simply this, the covenant was given to Moses to show how far from God they were. If they truly loved God they’d keep His commands but they didn’t and so were set aside with the N.C.
- JGR maintains a position similar to the dispensationalist considering the legal nature of the covenant made with Israel on Sinai.
- The personal and spiritual indwelling by God was not done in the O.T. believer as it is done today, Israel was never the “Temple of God†as the Church today is specifically designated.
- This point is helpful, “We must see that every single word like "elect," "chosen," "loved," "redeemed," "son," etc. that describes Israel's relationship to God as a nation has a totally different connotation when the identical words are used of the Church's relationship to God. You cannot mix spiritual and natural. You cannot treat the type as the reality.â€Â
- In the redemptive, no one that casts aside God can claim God as their God.
- The doctrine of “carnal Christians†is built upon mixing types with reality,.
- Covenant theology treats every member of the nation of Israel as if they were justified by the blood of Christ, even though most died in unbelief. (This isn’t explicitly stated, but it’s the logical outcome of this theological presuppositions.)

Chapter 5
- The N.T. is the fulfillment of the O.T. promises made to Abraham with Christ being the Keystone to both testaments.
The book lists the following as a quick overview of Christ as the unique seed of Abraham:
1.Purposed He is God's eternal Lamb. Rev 13:8
2.Predicted He is the Seed of Woman. Gen 3:15
3.Promised He is the Seed of Abraham. Gen 12:3
4.Pledged He is the Son of David. II Sam 7:12
5.Pictured He is the Subject of all Scripture. Luke 24:44,45
6.Presented He is the Fulfillment of every Promise. Luke 1:68-79
7.Positioned He is the Exalted Lord and King. Acts 2:29-30
8.Proclaimed The Sum and Substance of the gospel. Acts 2:36
-Christ had a unique purpose in redemptive history according to His position slain from the foundations of the world, and the prediction in Gen. 3:15, the seed of Abraham Gal. 3:8.
-JGR stresses the need for theologians to use Biblical terms over theological terms, and to allow Scripture to define the terms themselves. Scriptures or theological words should never hold theological meanings unless the meaning can be explicitly stated and proved by other Scriptures. Both dispey’s and covey’s break this rule.
-Reformed theology reinforces the idea of theological terms by stating, “commonly called†in it’s confessions. (Westminster Confession of faith that is.) The question is, who “commonly called†by whom? This is called Analogy of faith.

Chapter 6
-see original chapter, it’s a detailed exposition of Acts 2.

Chapter 7
-1. Never use physical nation of Israel to equate the Body of Christ/Church. 2. Keep the physical and the spiritual seed separate. 3. Never give spiritual meaning to physical blessing because they are only a type. 4. Understand the purpose of the Mosaic covenant and it’s legal ministration of death. 5. Know the covenantal understanding Israel had is not the same the Church has, simply put, everything is better under this better covenant.
-A Baptist can be Reformed but never a Covenant theologian, and the two (Reformed and Covenant) should never be seen as the same thing, at least I think that's the point he's making.
 
Chapter 8
- “not all Israel is Israel†simply means that Israel who was privileged as a nation (Rom. 3:1-3) and those who posses true saving Grace.
- Spiritual blessings were never promised to Israel just because they were Israelites, effectual calling is a perfect example given by Paul in Romans 9:11, 24 when the Holy Ghost lead him to contrast two covenant children.
- Further exposition is given on Romans 9 in this chapter.

Chapter 9
- The words of the Abrahamic covenant are found in Gen. 12:1-3.
- JGR makes a point about the land promised, that it would be forever: the nature land promised, the seed would be heirs to the promise and inheritance of the land is forever.
- The land is a type of spiritual rest, the Israelite a type of true believer.
- The land was given to maintain the people from which the Messiah would come out to.
- Genesis 17:7 is spiritual seed, compare to Romans 9:7 and Genesis 17:18-21. This point is in agree with Albert Barnes but John Gill disagrees.
- The addition of the word “everlasting†in Gen. 17:7,8 must be noticed. Covey’s will use this verse to include children in the covenant (which is a noble idea) but then refuse the promise of the land, they spiritualize one aspect of the verse and naturalize the other.
- The word “everlasting†doesn’t mean forever according to the author and gives the following examples: the Aaronic priesthood Ex. 40:12; Num. 25:24, Passover Ex. 12:14; Ex.. 27:21; Sabbath Ex. 31:17; circumcision Gen. 17:13. Everlasting is also linked to that covenant in which the word is being used, if that covenant changes then that changes the way in which we live out the covenant in community. Heb. 7:11,12
- All of the above have been done away with in Christ, even the Sabbath Heb. 4:1-11.
- That which was called everlasting in the above is type and has been fulfilled now in a spiritual sense, Israel is a nation before God forever but in a spiritual sense.
- Points to make: the land promise are not given in the N.T., the land promises are spiritualized in the N.T., the one place we find mention of the land it is clear the land ment something different from the physical land and better. Abraham’s feet were on the land given but his hope was heavenly. Heb. 11:8-13
- Summing up the chapter: every promise is fulfilled in Christ now or will be fulfilled in the New Heavens and New Earth, and everything given the believer in Christ is better then what is given in the natural world. Rev. 21; Heb. 11:39,40.
Thing Promised
- Everlasting priesthood
- Everlasting sanctuary
- Everlasting Sabbath
- Everlasting
- Everlasting circumcision
- EverlastingLand
O.T. Type
- Aaron

- Tabernacle

- Seventh day


- Physical
- Early Jerusalem
N.T. Fulfillment
- Christ

- The Body of Christ

- Salvation rest Heb. 4

- Regeneration

- New Jerusalem
Chapter 10
- Hodge is quoted on Romans 9 and seems to ignore the fact that covenant birth means little in light of “not all Israel is Israel.â€Â
- Paedobaptists make more of a claim then the Jews did when it comes to their children. Hodge makes the point how the seed of Abraham was spiritual and the Jews miss that by including the physical children in the covenant, yet he didn’t see how it applied to him and paedobaptisms.
- Gen. 17:7,8 cannot be applied to our children in light of Romans 9:6. The problem is found in the forced two covenant view they covenant theologians hold to.
- 1. All believers are in Christ 1 Cor. 12:12,13; Gal. 3:26-29. 2. Being in Christ and being part of the Body of Christ is the same thing. 3. We enter the body via Spirit baptism. 4. Before Acts 2 the first three points could not have happened. Paul’s argument against this teaching is found in Gal. 3 and 4.
- The Law helped to keep a distinction between Israel and the Gentile, one example being marriage. A Jew couldn’t marry a Gentile without sinning against God but now, the middle wall as come down and the distinctive factors are no longer. Gal. 3:27,28; Col. 2:14,15
- Many preachers are putting listeners under the Law to be saved, laying the Law to the conscious. But this leads to legalism.
- Martiyn Lloyd-Jones is mentioned.
- We need to be set free from the Law centred life and embrace Christ centred living.
- The idea of a visible/invisible Church is false and not found in the Bible, it allows for unbelievers to be accepted into Church membership along with true regenerated believers. The Church as believer’s only (Baptist) and believer’s and their children (paedobaptists) are at odds.
- The WCF uses two methods in theology: Scripture and the idea that one can deduce from their system with logic. Art. 1 Sec. 6

Chapter 11
- In a nature sense, the great nation promise was fulfilled in Ishmael and Israel. In the fullest sense of the promise it was fulfilled in Christ.
- The O.T. saint wanted on the Messiah and His coming, but he didn’t see the fulfillment until Calvary. Heb. 11:39,40; 1 Pet. 1:10-12 This hope was realized when Christ came and is not postponed until the Millennium.
- Two points: the promise concerns salvation and not land, the members of the covenant are regenerated believers…and not their children.
- Every member in the New Covenant Community is a regenerated believer, we are Kings and Priests.
Old Covenant: circumcision defined the nation irrespective of regeneration.
New Covenant: regeneration defines the Church irrespective of nation.
Old Covenant: obedience was the ground where you received blessings.
New Covenant: both blessing and necessary obedience are assured by Christ.
- Israel was given the promise of being a holy nation IF they obeyed. Ex. 34; 19
- We the Church are the holy nation because of Christ and Christ’s work alone, 1 Pet. 2:6-9.
See chart in this chapter for better understanding of the Body of Christ.
 
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