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thessalonian
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I posted this on JM's Peter in Rome thread. I don't want this to be a debate about whether Peter was in Rome. JM already started one. Just want everyone to have an opportunity to participate in my $10,000 challenge. BWG even said he/she (which are you bwg) wanted to participate, even though he's catholic. .
Here is the deal. On JM's thread I posted the names of 8 early Church writers outside the Bible who say that Peter was in Rome. There are many more of course. They say it explicitly. All you have to do is explain why these writers created this conspiriacy or were sorely confused and Peter never reall was in Rome. Then come up with 8 statements from various writers that explicitly say he was not.
Now I have devised a way to give credit the closer on is to the Peter's time. That only makes sense. You and I know George Bush exists as the US President. Who knows in 2000 years if peolpe will have a solid knowledge that he was. Most certainly they will have to rely on some information from today or in the history books of the next 200 years. So here is the deal. For each writer we simply take the year that he died. In fact I will give you the advantage. I will alow you to use their birth year and I will use the year they died in my list of 8. Now I will currently say that the total for my list of 8 is probably around 2400. If things get close (which I suspect it won't) then I will get an accurate tally. Basically what you have to do is shoot for 8 writers whose birth years add up to less than 2400 that state that Peter was never in Rome. For example you can use John Calvin who's birth year was somewhere around 1600. Then you have 800 years left to play with for 7 more authors. You can even use yourself but this puts you at over 2060 or so so all the rest of your 7 quotes need to be right out the Bible, each quote from it counting as le's say 33. Something I know you can't do. The Bible is silent on the matter. Do you follow?
I'll write you out a check if you can do it. 1 Explanation. 8 quotes with the total years adding up to less than my 8 quotes. That's it.
Good luck.
Here is the deal. On JM's thread I posted the names of 8 early Church writers outside the Bible who say that Peter was in Rome. There are many more of course. They say it explicitly. All you have to do is explain why these writers created this conspiriacy or were sorely confused and Peter never reall was in Rome. Then come up with 8 statements from various writers that explicitly say he was not.
Now I have devised a way to give credit the closer on is to the Peter's time. That only makes sense. You and I know George Bush exists as the US President. Who knows in 2000 years if peolpe will have a solid knowledge that he was. Most certainly they will have to rely on some information from today or in the history books of the next 200 years. So here is the deal. For each writer we simply take the year that he died. In fact I will give you the advantage. I will alow you to use their birth year and I will use the year they died in my list of 8. Now I will currently say that the total for my list of 8 is probably around 2400. If things get close (which I suspect it won't) then I will get an accurate tally. Basically what you have to do is shoot for 8 writers whose birth years add up to less than 2400 that state that Peter was never in Rome. For example you can use John Calvin who's birth year was somewhere around 1600. Then you have 800 years left to play with for 7 more authors. You can even use yourself but this puts you at over 2060 or so so all the rest of your 7 quotes need to be right out the Bible, each quote from it counting as le's say 33. Something I know you can't do. The Bible is silent on the matter. Do you follow?
I'll write you out a check if you can do it. 1 Explanation. 8 quotes with the total years adding up to less than my 8 quotes. That's it.
Good luck.