100% proof america is babylon the great

[RND]

Could you imagine the reaction if Bush had not gone to the funeral of Pope John Paul II, the man who was so instumental in taking down communism? :-?

I could imagine the "Catholic" reaction, yes. As for "Protestants" well, I'm not so sure. I don't recall all the world being gathered together when a Protestant, Buddhist, Muslim, etc., religious leader died.

http://www.boston.com/news/specials/pop ... e_funeral/

As for "taking down communism" that would have been completely unnecessary had not the Jesuits established communism.

JESUITS HELPED TO START TWO WORLD WARS (1 & 2)

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/redmass.html

Confession No.9: Will America Rise Up Against Jesuits, Vatican And New World Order Tyranny?

 

[Laudate Dominum]

Could you imagine the reaction if Bush had not gone to the funeral of Pope John Paul II, the man who was so instumental in taking down communism? :-?

As for "taking down communism" that would have been completely unnecessary had not the Jesuits established communism.

JESUITS HELPED TO START TWO WORLD WARS (1 & 2)

http://www.spirituallysmart.com/redmass.html

Confession No.9: Will America Rise Up Against Jesuits, Vatican And New World Order Tyranny?

Absurd, unsubstantiated propoganda.

 

[Laudate Dominum]

Could you imagine the reaction if Bush had not gone to the funeral of Pope John Paul II, the man who was so instumental in taking down communism? :-?

I could imagine the "Catholic" reaction, yes. As for "Protestants" well, I'm not so sure. I don't recall all the world being gathered together when a Protestant, Buddhist, Muslim, etc., religious leader died.

http://www.boston.com/news/specials/pop ... e_funeral/

Few people have been as universally respected.

 

[turnorburn]

Laudate says: Few people have been as universally respected.

Jesus says in Luke 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

turnorburn

 

[Laudate Dominum]

Laudate says: Few people have been as universally respected.

Jesus says in Luke 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

turnorburn

Popularity does not make one the antichrist any more than being unpopular makes you the herald of God's Kingdom.

 

[RND]

Absurd, unsubstantiated propoganda.

It's substantiated by the Bible, does that count? Who was that little horn that changed times and laws?

 

[RND]

Few people have been as universally respected.

Does 'universal acceptance' make one a Christian?

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

 

[Laudate Dominum]

Absurd, unsubstantiated propoganda.

It's substantiated by the Bible, does that count? Who was that little horn that changed times and laws?

The Bible does not record any history past the 1st century A.D.. Subjective interpretations of prophecies are just that- subjective interpretations. If you want to appeal to respectable historical documents, fine by me, but you can't prove your case based on just the prophecies in Revelation and Daniel.

 

[Laudate Dominum]

Few people have been as universally respected.

Does 'universal acceptance' make one a Christian?

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

No, being Christian makes on Christian. And John Paul II was most certainly a Christian. Did he not forgive his would-be assassin? And that's just one event that sticks out in people's minds.

Out of defernce to the moderators, however, I will refrain from further comments on this subject in the public forum. If you want to discuss this in more detail, please PM me.

 

[RND]

The Bible does not record any history past the 1st century A.D..

Sure it does.

Subjective interpretations of prophecies are just that- subjective interpretations. If you want to appeal to respectable historical documents, fine by me, but you can't prove your case based on just the prophecies in Revelation and Daniel.

I think the fact that world history has been revealed exactly as Daniel and Revelation had prophesied says more than anyone could truly know. The state of the world today is the perfect combination of church and state, though some wish not to believe that.

 

[Cornelius]

Yes America will be judged for her many sins, but this does not make it Babylon, anymore than the rest of the nations. Ruth Graham once said; if God doesn't judge America, he will have to apologize! to Sodom and Gommorah.

If anything the USA more resembles the old Roman Empire, with its taxes, symbolism, and even its form of government. In fact the USA is supposed to be a Republic, not a Democracy, just as Rome was a Republic. That is until it became a dictatorship, we are just fixing to de-elect our dictator; I hope!. :

Something interesting: Rome's symbol was the eagle. Their seat of power was on Capital Hill, in a domed building. They were ruled by Julius Cesar (JC ) nominated priest to Jupiter (as our JC , Jesus Christ is High Priest to the Father ), they had a Senate.........

Funny thing is that Hitler also chose the great eagle as his symbol. He had a crooked cross as an emblem. His cross stood on "God with us" (Immanuel as translated in Isaiah ) Hitlers cross was crooked, because the real cross does not stand for killing others, it stands for "death to self....the old flesh"

Then there is this scripture to consider:

Ecc 1:9 That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

In many ways, the connections you point out are deliberate. The architecture of Washington D.C. was meant to emulate the old greco-roman architecture, and the very name, senate, is taken from the Romans. America's "founding fathers" wanted to form a republic and so used references to ancient Rome to strengthen the connection.

Aside from that, you do bring up some interesting points about Hitler and the swastika.

I was just thinking: Connecting God and Him being sovereign in all things and Eccl 1;9 (History repeats ) that God is doing this on purpose to that we, who read the Bible can have insight (more so than the world) He clearly tells us that history repeats and we can see this in more cases than this one.

So God wants us to see the connection here.People think they do things intentionally, but God says all things serve Him. (and His purposes )

We see the eagle as the symbol for Babylon in Daniel. The we can follow the SPIRIT of this eagle as it travels through history into present times. That is now "Babylon" is now in our time: Its just the same spirit (principality of the air/demon prince ) that ruled ancient Babylon, that is still with us today. God uses the eagle to "flag " him.

 

[nadab]

Both America and Rome have been called Babylon the Great. Wikipedia says that "there is much speculation within all religious perspectives on what the Whore(Babylon the Great) and Beast are symbolic of as well as the possible implications for contemporary interpretations." It then says that "many scholars agree that "Babylon" is an allegory of Rome, perhaps specifically at the time to some aspect of Rome's rule (brutality, greed, paganism), or even a servant people that does the bidding of Rome." However, Rome nor America fits "Babylon the Great" as the "harlot" or prostitute she is.

Others, such as Martin Luther (1483-1546 C.E.), John Calvin (1509-64 C.E), and John Knox (about 1510-72 C.E.) called the Roman Catholic Church as Babylon the Great. This too, does not fit the picture completely. Looking at ancient Babylon can provide the key to unlock the meaning of Babylon the Great. Ancient Babylon was noted, not for it's politics, but for religion.

Insight on the Scriptures says that "Evidence from excavations and from ancient texts points to the existence of more than 50 temples. The principal god of the imperial city was Marduk, called Merodach in the Bible. It has been suggested that Nimrod was deified as Marduk, but the opinions of scholars as to identifications of gods with specific humans vary. Triads of deities were also prominent in the Babylonian religion. One of these, made up of two gods and a goddess, was Sin (the moon-god), Shamash (the sun-god), and Ishtar; these were said to be the rulers of the zodiac. And still another triad was composed of the devils Labartu, Labasu, and Akhkhazu. Idolatry was everywhere in evidence. Babylon was indeed “a land of graven images,†filthy “dungy idols.â€Ââ€â€Jer 50:1, 2, 38."

"The Babylonians believed in the immortality of the human soul.â€â€The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, by M. Jastrow, Jr., 1898, p. 556. The Babylonians developed astrology in an effort to discover man’s future in the stars. Magic, sorcery, and astrology played a prominent part in their religion. (Isa 47:12, 13; Da 2:27; 4:7) Many heavenly bodies, for example, planets, were named after Babylonian gods. Divination continued to be a basic component of Babylonian religion in the days of Nebuchadnezzar, who used it to reach decisions.â€â€Eze 21:20-22."

Professor Morris Jastrow, Jr., in his work The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria (1898, pp. 699-701), said regarding ancient Babylon's religious influence: “In the ancient world, prior to the rise of Christianity, Egypt, Persia, and Greece felt the influence of the Babylonian religion. . . . In Persia, the Mithra cult reveals the unmistakable influence of Babylonian conceptions;" In conclusion he refers to “the profound impression made upon the ancient world by the remarkable manifestations of religious thought in Babylonia and by the religious activity that prevailed in that region.â€Â

Hence, in the Bible, Babylon was a religious empire, not a political one, deeply involved in false religion. That the mystic Babylon the Great of the book of Revelation is not a political empire is seen in that she is called a "harlot""(“fornicatrix; prostitute.†Greek, por´nes.), committing spiritual fornication with the "kings of the earth".(Rev 17:1,2) She is seen riding upon a "scarlet-colored wild beast".(Rev 17:3) The first mention of mystic Babylon the Great is at Revelation 14:8, whereby it is said that she "made all the nations drink of the wine of the anger of her fornication." In Chapter 16, after the "seven bowls that were full of the anger of God" are poured out, it then says that "Babylon the Great was remembered in the sight of God, to give her the cup of the wine of the anger of his wrath."(Rev 16:19)

At Revelation 17:4, this “woman†is shown as being “arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication.†Being as the "wild beast" upon which she is riding (the United Nations), is scarlet-colored, and scarlet representing royalty in Bible times (compare 2 Sam 1:24), the "harlot", mystic Babylon the Great, is therefore clothed in luxury and royalty by this "wild beast". At Jeremiah 4:30, God portrays the ancient city of Jerusalem as once figuratively attired by him in beautiful garments, with "scarlet (and ) ornaments of gold". But she trusted in her prettiness and consorted with the pagan nations, decking herself out to be attractive, as a prostitute.

At Revelation 17:5, upon the forehead of this “woman†is written: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.†Of what is she guilty ? “And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus.†(Rev 17:6) Hence, of all the organizations on the earth, this one is the most cupable or gulity in God’s eyes.

That she cannot be a political power, is that Revelation 18:9 says that “the kings of the earth…will weep and beat themselves in grief over her, when they look at the smoke from the burning of her" at her total destruction. Additionally, since she is mourned by the world’s merchants, she cannot picture big business, for Revelation 18:15 says that “the traveling merchants…will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment.†At Revelation 18:23, it says that she ‘ misleads all the nations by her spiritistic practices’. What does this mean ? That Babylon the Great , the “mother of harlotsâ€Â, must be a worldwide religious entity. Hence, she is the world empire of false religion, a collection of all the religions of the world that promote false religious teachings, including Christendom.

Her origin in the mysteries of Babylon is shown in that many Babylonish doctrines and practices are common to religions around the world. For example, belief in the inherent immortality of the human soul, in a hell of torment, and in a trinity of gods is to found in most Oriental religions as well as in the sects of Christendom. False religion, spawned more than 4,000 years ago in the city of ancient Babylon, has developed into a modern monstrosity that is called, appropriately, Babylon the Great and of which God has entreated his "people" saying: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues".(Rev 18:4)

 

[Vic C.]

That's actually a pretty good post, nadab.

So since Revelation is steep in OT imagery and OT prophecy, I'd pay close attention to this:

At Revelation 17:4, this “woman†is shown as being “arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication.†Being as the "wild beast" upon which she is riding (the political governments of the "world", Matt 4:8) , is scarlet-colored, and scarlet representing royalty in Bible times (compare 2 Sam 1:24), the "harlot", mystic Babylon the Great, is therefore clothed in luxury and royalty by this "wild beast". At Jeremiah 4:30, God portrays the ancient city of Jerusalem as once figuratively attired by him in beautiful garments, with "scarlet (and ) ornaments of gold". But she trusted in her prettiness and consorted with the pagan nations, decking herself out to be attractive, as a prostitute.

Thinking that people in the first century were meant to read Revelation, as well as us, what would it mean to them? Which city was taken by the Babylonians and which people were assimilated and took back with them the religious customs and beliefs when they were returned to their "city"?

Which people were responsible for the killing of the prophets and first century martyrs? I think when we reconcile all that we will understand this "new" religion and it's future "central" city,.

 

[nadab]

Hello vic.C,
The book of Revelation was written down by the apostle John around 96 C.E., evidently exiled on the isle of Patmos by Roman Emperor Domitian (81-96 C.E.). Though it was sent to the "seven congregations, in Ephesus and Smyrna and in Pergamum and in Thyatira and in Sardis and in Philadelphia and in Laodicea", and was to be read by those congregations, the understanding or "unveiling" of Revelation would not occur until after "the Lord's day" began in 1914 (Rev 1:10), when Jesus was installed as king of God's kingdom, at which time Jesus "promised presence" also began,(Matt 24:3) and which is also called the "last days".(2 Pet 3:3,4)

This Bible book was indeed written in "signs"(Rev 1:1), imagery or symbolism that many find are difficult to grasp. Now though, the book of Revelation is being unveiled for anyone desiring to look into, for "happy is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it; for the appointed time is near."(Rev 1:3) The appeal by God, calling for his "people" to "get out" of Babylon the Great is essential for their everlasting future, whether it be to serve as "kings and priests"(Rev 1:6) or to look forward to everlasting life on this earth in a Paradise.(Rev 21:3,4; Ps 37:11,29)

Though almost of Revelation was not understood by those Christians in the first century, and until it began to be "unveiled" in our time period, there was still a need to examine it closely. It provided a resounding hope that God was going to restore what Adam lost in the beginning of mankind's history, living everlastingly on a Paradise earth. (Rev 21:3-5; Gen 2) As with the book of Daniel, whereby the angel told the aged Daniel: "And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of the end. (At that time) Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant."(Dan 12:4)

Hence, the revealing of the "deep things of God" (1 Cor 2:10) would unfold in our time period and therefore Revelation would become more clearly understood. This would also entail as to who Babylon the Great is. Though a "mystery" to most (Rev 17:5), the clues provided in the Bible have opened the door to grasping this monstrosity as the world empire of false religion, which includes Christendom. This false religious empire has been building up especially since the days of Nimrod, who built Babel (Gen 10:10), but who proved to be a rebel against God.(Gen 10:9, "a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah", Hebrew liph·neh´; “against†or “in opposition toâ€Â; compare Nu 16:2; 1Ch 14:8; 2Ch 14:10)

False religion has played a prominent role throughout mankind's history, since the first lie by Satan in the Garden of Eden.(John 8:44) But it became embodied as a symbol of that which is false in ancient Babylon. That is why, upon leaving ancient Babylon in 539 B.C.E. after almost seventy years of captivity, God told the nation of Israel to "turn away, turn away, get out of there, touch nothing unclean; get out of the midst of her, keep yourselves clean, you who are carrying the utensils of Jehovah."(Isa 52:11)

However, upon her downfall on the night of October 5/6, 539 B.C.E. by Cyrus the Persian, her false religious teachings began to be carried to distant regions, such as immortality of the soul, hellfire, believing in a trinity of gods and of which religions around the world promote as "truth". Many in the churches as well as non-Christian religions, accept these religious teachings as true, with many not realizing that these are religious lies, among a myriad of other false religious teachings, such as the use idols in worship.(1 John 5:21; Ex 20:4,5) Truth is not at odds with itself.

In the first century, Jesus told the religious leaders that these were part of the world empire of false religion, of Babylon the Great, saying to them: "Serpents, offspring of vipers, how are you to flee from the judgment of Gehenna (total destruction) ? For this reason, here I am sending forth to you prophets and wise men and public instructors. Some of them you will kill and impale, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city; that there may come upon you all the righteous blood spilled on earth, from the blood righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and altar."(Matt 23:33-35)

These religious leaders, though in a covenant with God, displayed the same hateful disposition as their forefathers and hence he said that these were guilty of "all the righteous blood spilled on the earth", being included as part of the Babylon the Great, a false religious empire having been judged as worthy of total annihilation.(Rev 18:8) Revelation further says that "her sins have massed clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind."(Rev 18:5) This religious monstrosity is guilty of the most criminal of acts, all in the "name of religion", including the churches of Christendom.

The churches have been deeply involved in wars, with WWI and WWII having started in the heart of Christendom. For example, of their support of political leaders in World War I, British Brigadier General Frank P. Crozier said: “The Christian Churches are the finest blood-lust creators which we have and f them we made free use.â€Â

 

[Vic C.]

You know I'm not into Watchtower material, so it's no surprise that I disagree with the 1914 date. Yes, there will be a final Day of the Lord, but it is still in our future. It hasn't happened yet and if any mere, secular man lives to tell or write about it, it's sure to become the biggest "current event" in the history of this world. 1914 is a mere speck in history compared to what's in store.

I'm also not dogmatic about the written date of Revelation, but two things need to be considered; one, Laodicea was destroyed by an earthquake in the very early part of 60s AD and two, it wasn't completely restored until the early part of the second century.

Also, if I was a betting man, I'd be willing to bet that the first century reader would understand the imagery much better than we could. This is a great site for anyone wanting to understand the nature of Apocalyptic writing.

http://sites.silaspartners.com/partner/ ... 42,00.html

The churches have been deeply involved in wars, with WWI and WWII having started in the heart of Christendom. For example, of their support of political leaders in World War I, British Brigadier General Frank P. Crozier said: “The Christian Churches are the finest blood-lust creators which we have and of them we made free use.â€Â

Yes, I know, we can dredge up a whole slew of mud on religious organizations, including the Watchtower Society, so lets not go in that direction please.

Thanks.

 

[turnorburn]

Its Rome :smt045

turnorburn

 

[RND]

John Wycliffe
"When the western church was divided for about 40 years between two rival popes, one in Rome and the other in Avigon, France, each pope called the other pope antichrist - and John Wycliffe is reputed to have regarded them as both being right: "two halves of Antichrist, making up the perfect Man of Sin between them." -Ibid

Martin Luther (Lutheran)
"We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist...personally I declare that I owe the Pope no other obedience than that to Antichrist." (Aug. 18, 1520) Taken from The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Vol. 2., pg. 121 by Froom. (In response to a papal bull [official decree]): "I despise and attack it, as impious, false... It is Christ Himself who is condemned therein... I rejoice in having to bear such ills for the best of causes. Already I feel greater liberty in my heart; for at last I know that the pope is antichrist, and that his throne is that of Satan himself." --D'Aubigné, b.6, ch. 9.

Cotton Mather (Congregational Theologian)
"The oracles of God foretold the rising of an Antichrist in the Christian Church: and in the Pope of Rome, all the characteristics of that Antichrist are so marvelously answered that if any who read the Scriptures do not see it, there is a marvelous blindness upon them." Taken from The Fall of Babylon by Cotton Mather in Froom's book, The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, Vol. 3, pg. 113.

John Wesley (Methodist)
Speaking of the Papacy he said, "He is in an emphatical sense, the Man of Sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too, properly styled the Son of Perdition, as he has caused the death of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers... He it is...that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped...claiming the highest power, and highest honour...claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone." Taken from Antichrist and His Ten Kingdoms by John Wesley, pg. 110.

Ellen G. White: Seven Day Adventists
"This compromise between paganism and Christianity resulted in the development of "the man of sin" foretold in prophecy as opposing and exalting himself above God. That gigantic system of false religion is a masterpiece of Satan's power--a monument of his efforts to seat himself upon the throne to rule the earth according to his will.

Thomas Cranmer (Anglican)
"Whereof it followeth Rome to be the seat of antichrist, and the pope to be very antichrist himself. I could prove the same by many other scriptures, old writers, and strong reasons." (Referring to prophecies in Revelation and Daniel.) Taken from Works by Cranmer, Vol. 1, pp. 6-7.

Roger Williams (First Baptist Pastor in America)
He spoke of the Pope as "the pretended Vicar of Christ on earth, who sits as God over the Temple of God, exalting himself not only above all that is called God, but over the souls and consciences of all his vassals, yea over the Spirit of Christ, over the Holy Spirit, yea, and God himself...speaking against the God of heaven, thinking to change times and laws; but he is the son of perdition (II Thess. 2)." Taken from The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers by Froom, Vol. 3, pg. 52.

1689 London Baptist Confession

Chapter 26: Of the Church. The Lord Jesus Christ is the Head of the church, in whom, by the appointment of the Father, all power for the calling, institution, order or government of the church, is invested in a supreme and sovereign manner; neither can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof, but is that antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the church against Christ, and all that is called God; whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming. ( Colossians 1:18; Matthew 28:18-20; Ephesians 4:11, 12; 2 Thessalonians 2:2-9 )

John Knox (Scotch Presbyterian)
Knox wrote to abolish "that tyranny which the pope himself has for so many ages exercised over the church" and that the pope should be recognized as "the very antichrist, and son of perdition, of whom Paul speaks." Taken from The Zurich Letters, pg. 199 by John Knox.

John Calvin (Presbyterian)
"Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the Roman pontiff Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not consider that they bring the same charge of presumption against Paul himself, after whom we speak and whose language we adopt... I shall briefly show that (Paul's words in II Thess. 2) are not capable of any other interpretation than that which applies them to the Papacy." Taken from Institutes by John Calvin.

 

[brakelite2]

Hi RND
makes one wonder at the success of the counter reformation by the Jesuits when you consider how so many today are so blind to this truth. Futurism and preterism have done their jobs well. Futurism in particular. I liken today's church to being so deceived they are searching the distant horizon so avidly and with such focus, waiting for that great ocean liner named "antichrist" that they cannot see the train by the same name about to run over them.

 

[brakelite2]

That's actually a pretty good post, nadab.

So since Revelation is steep in OT imagery and OT prophecy, I'd pay close attention to this:

At Revelation 17:4, this “woman†is shown as being “arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication.†Being as the "wild beastupon which she is riding (the political governments of the "world", Matt 4:8) , is scarlet-colored, and scarlet representing royalty in Bible times (compare 2 Sam 1:24), the "harlot", mystic Babylon the Great, is therefore clothed in luxury and royalty by this "wild beast". At Jeremiah 4:30, God portrays the ancient city of Jerusalem as once figuratively attired by him in beautiful garments, with "scarlet (and ) ornaments of gold". But she trusted in her prettiness and consorted with the pagan nations, decking herself out to be attractive, as a prostitute.

Thinking that people in the first century were meant to read Revelation, as well as us, what would it mean to them? Which city was taken by the Babylonians and which people were assimilated and took back with them the religious customs and beliefs when they were returned to their "city"?

Which people were responsible for the killing of the prophets and first century martyrs? I think when we reconcile all that we will understand this "new" religion and it's future "central" city,.

Hi Vic.
I'd like to add further significance to the colors previously mentioned.
The papacy has styled itself after the Levitical priesthood in the belief that they offer sacrifice (the mass) etc. The colors too are similar. Almost. Note the one missing.

Exodus 39:1 ¶ And of the blue, and purple, and scarlet, they made cloths of service, to do service in the holy place, and made the holy garments for Aaron; as the LORD commanded Moses.
2 And he made the ephod of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.


3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.


So what color included in the vestments of the OT sanctuary is missing from the vestments of the NT counterfeit?
And what does that color signify?

Numbers 15:38 Speak unto the children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue:
39 And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all the commandments of the LORD, and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring:
40 That ye may remember, and do all my commandments, and be holy unto your God.


The blue was included as a reminder of the commandments of God. It was a reminder of the Law.
So why is that significantly missing from the colors of Babylon and the antichrist?

Da 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.


Look up any Catholic catechism and read through the 10 commandments. No 2nd commandment. The 10th divided. And the 4th altered from Sabbath to Sunday. God Himself has declared that she would not wear blue.

 

[RND]

Hi RND
makes one wonder at the success of the counter reformation by the Jesuits when you consider how so many today are so blind to this truth. Futurism and preterism have done their jobs well. Futurism in particular. I liken today's church to being so deceived they are searching the distant horizon so avidly and with such focus, waiting for that great ocean liner named "antichrist" that they cannot see the train by the same name about to run over them.

I couldn't agree with you more brakelite2. But I honestly do believe that the later rain will help to open the eyes of those that cannot see right now or unstop the ears of those that cannot hear. People of all faiths and denominations are already asking pertinent questions with respect to the end times based alot on the running away from the fallacies they have been taught.

It's just a matter of time before many are awaken from the stupor of the false teachers that have been leading them.