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Bible Study 2 Good Books for Your Personal Library

http://www.amazon.com/Criminalization-C ... 016&sr=1-9

In this book horror story after horror story is laid out, documenting the very real assaults on our freedoms and our faith. Consider but a few examples.

-Believers in Philadelphia faced felony charges and jail time for simply quoting from the Bible in public.

-Two Christians (one heavily pregnant) were ordered off a bus and had to walk home in the rain because the driver said their discussion of their faith might "offend" other passengers on the bus.

-A Canadian believer and print shop owner who declined to print homosexual material was found guilty of discrimination by the Ontario Human Rights Commission and fined $5000, which went to the homosexual group. He also now has to pay off a $170,000 legal fee.

-A group called American United for Separation of Church and State is sending people to churches to monitor sermons to see if there are any so-called church/state separation violations.

-In Quebec government officials removed a child from her Baptist family because "they might have unusual beliefs regarding child-rearing".

-In a California town $500,000 of public money was spent on constructing a statue to an Aztec god. The Aztecs of course were notorious for their countless child sacrifices. While this was held to be a "cultural symbol," the same council removed a nativity scene.

-A pro-homosexual ordinance in Madison Wisconsin resulted in this outrage: Two women advertised for a roommate. When they declined to take in a lesbian, they were forced by the Equal Opportunity Commission to attend "sensitivity training", pay the lesbian $1500, write a formal apology, and have their housing situation "monitored" for two years. One of the women said in tears that she felt like she was living in totalitarian China instead of democratic America.

Another good book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080542 ... 0805426981
 
Biblereader said:
http://www.amazon.com/Criminalization-Christianity-Before-Becomes-Illegal/dp/1590524683/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210907016&sr=1-9

In this book horror story after horror story is laid out, documenting the very real assaults on our freedoms and our faith. Consider but a few examples.

-Believers in Philadelphia faced felony charges and jail time for simply quoting from the Bible in public.

-Two Christians (one heavily pregnant) were ordered off a bus and had to walk home in the rain because the driver said their discussion of their faith might "offend" other passengers on the bus.

-A Canadian believer and print shop owner who declined to print homosexual material was found guilty of discrimination by the Ontario Human Rights Commission and fined $5000, which went to the homosexual group. He also now has to pay off a $170,000 legal fee.

-A group called American United for Separation of Church and State is sending people to churches to monitor sermons to see if there are any so-called church/state separation violations.

-In Quebec government officials removed a child from her Baptist family because "they might have unusual beliefs regarding child-rearing".

-In a California town $500,000 of public money was spent on constructing a statue to an Aztec god. The Aztecs of course were notorious for their countless child sacrifices. While this was held to be a "cultural symbol," the same council removed a nativity scene.

-A pro-homosexual ordinance in Madison Wisconsin resulted in this outrage: Two women advertised for a roommate. When they declined to take in a lesbian, they were forced by the Equal Opportunity Commission to attend "sensitivity training", pay the lesbian $1500, write a formal apology, and have their housing situation "monitored" for two years. One of the women said in tears that she felt like she was living in totalitarian China instead of democratic America.

Another good book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/080542 ... 0805426981


I wonder when will some Christians wake up and realize that we don't belong to this world/system? Those who still think that a Christian's responsibility is to help to set up a Godly government or whatever they call it are going to be sadly disappointed.....we are going to be labeled as terrorist, not because we support violence against anyone, but because we will not compromise the word of God.....you, those who still have one foot in the world will have to chose whom are you going to serve, because no one can serve two masters.

The tax exempt status that Churches have will be revoked for those who will not compromise God's word, what will your denomination do if it is faced with such a situation? We should learn from the wisdom of Abraham, who refused to take any reward for defeating the enemy of Sodom, because they would say that they have made Abraham rich. Abraham just like Jesus did not need anyone to tell him what human beings were like, because he knew what was in man.

Genesis 14:21-23 (ASV)
21 And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself.
22 And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lifted up my hand unto Jehovah, God Most High, possessor of heaven and earth,
23 that I will not take a thread nor a shoe-latchet nor aught that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:

John 2:24-25 (ASV)
24 But Jesus did not trust himself unto them, for that he knew all men,
25 and because he needed not that any one should bear witness concerning man; for he himself knew what was in man.
 
I wonder when will some Christians wake up and realize that we don't belong to this world/system? Those who still think that a Christian's responsibility is to help to set up a Godly government or whatever they call it are going to be sadly disappointed...

We don't belong to this world, true, but, we are supposed to be salt and light to a dark, sinful world.
Do you think Christians are supposed to sit back, and do nothing?

I realize, probably more than most Christians, that we're to be set apart, and noticeably different, from those on the broad path to Hell.
I also know I can't set up a Godly government.

Christians are supposed to spread the Gospel, speak the truth, no matter what, abstain from sin, be loving, and a lot of other things.
Sitting back and doing nothing is not an option. Jesus didn't sit back, neither did any of the apostles.
 
Biblereader said:
I wonder when will some Christians wake up and realize that we don't belong to this world/system? Those who still think that a Christian's responsibility is to help to set up a Godly government or whatever they call it are going to be sadly disappointed...

We don't belong to this world, true, but, we are supposed to be salt and light to a dark, sinful world.
Do you think Christians are supposed to sit back, and do nothing?

I realize, probably more than most Christians, that we're to be set apart, and noticeably different, from those on the broad path to Hell.
I also know I can't set up a Godly government.

Christians are supposed to spread the Gospel, speak the truth, no matter what, abstain from sin, be loving, and a lot of other things.
Sitting back and doing nothing is not an option. Jesus didn't sit back, neither did any of the apostles.

What you say is true, but it still has nothing to do with what I said.....I did not say we should not be lights to the world, neither did I say that we should not preach the gospel. But we should stay out of politics because we don’t belong there...that's all. But I realize that many of us will have to learn the hard way, so if that’s what it’s going to take, well so be it.
 
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