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A Former Witch Looks At The Lord Of The Rings

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A Former Witch Looks At The Lord Of The Rings

Something very strange is going on in the United States, and the spirits that are hard at work are now bringing forth a power that is designed to captivate the entire world. Shortly after the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City fell to the ground and drastically changed our nation forever, a new series of movies began to draw millions of people to the movie theaters. Standing above and apart from the many fantasy movies and books is a trilogy or series of three called The Lord Of The Rings. This series was written by the late J.R.R. Tolkien and was first published in book form in the early 1950’s. During the rock music revolution of the 1960’s, The Lord of the Rings trilogy caught on, and over 100 million of these books were sold. These books greatly fueled the spiritual revolution and opened the door for witchcraft to seize upon our world. All of this is being done to prepare the way for a new world order in a new Aquarian age.

I was once a witch and was very much a part of the world that J.R.R. Tolkien reveals in his Lord of the Rings trilogy. In the 1960’s, I practiced astrology, palmistry, and numerology among other devices of the craft. I was graciously and mercifully saved out of witchcraft by the Lord Jesus, and I am now spending my life in a mission of exposing occultism and its forces of darkness. I am thus writing this message with a great urgency, for I can spot witchcraft in a moment, and I recognize it well. I can see that the deceptive cloud of witchcraft has descended upon our nation. Even many Christians are being pulled into the forbidden realm of the occult, because they are so ignorant of Satan’s devices.

Before I reveal the dangers of The Lord of the Rings trilogy and expose it as real witchcraft, I will reveal some things regarding the beliefs and doctrines of witchcraft. First of all, witches and Satanists are not the same thing. Witches do not believe in Satan. The first thing a neophyte or beginner witch is taught is that there is a "force." The "force" has two sides and can be controlled by magic spells, words, potions, incantations, rope magic, rings, amulets, and so on. Witches believe that there is good witchcraft and bad witchcraft, and the good always triumphs over evil! Witches also teach that battles are fought in the Middle Earth and in the astral plane causing upheavals both above and below. Thus, witches emphasize that good must triumph over evil, but it is all witchcraft.

I am always amazed when I hear ministries such as Chuck Colson, "Focus on the Family", and the Assemblies of God defend such works as Harry Potter, The Lord of the Rings, and The Narnia Chronicles. I am amazed because they say the same things that initiated coven witches are saying, which is that good triumphs over evil! It is all witchcraft, and the good that these professing Christians are defending is witchcraft as forbidden in Deuteronomy 18:9-14. As a former witch, I was horrified and outraged to find that "Focus on the Family" was promoting a book as announced in the December 2001 issue of their magazine. The book being promoted is titled, Finding God in the Lord of the Rings. The asking price was 13 dollars. (The number "13" is the coven number in the occult.) Thus, these so-called "Christian" ministries are making witches their evangelists and using witchcraft materials in their Sunday Schools. Soon they will find their children are in the craft as "good little Christian witches."

The Lord of the Rings trilogy was the work of John Ronald Reuel Tolkien, who did his writing during the midnight hours. He worked for 12 years and released his story in the 13th year. Tolkien became known as the "Master of the Middle Earth". This was a land inhabited by hobbits, elves, mortal men, wizards, dwarves and orcs or grotesque goblins. The hero of the story is a hobbit or halfling only 3 ½ feet tall named Frodo Baggins. Frodo has pointed ears and furry feet and carries a cursed object with him. The cursed object is a golden ring invested with terrible powers that must be destroyed by casting it into a fiery abyss at a great distance. If Frodo would fail, the ring would fall into the hands of an evil wizard called Sauron, and the entire world would pass into eternal darkness under the dark lord. Sauron’s world is a land of shadows called Mordor. The ring has an inscription on which is written a message in the witchcraft language of runes. We must remember that these runes are real and are used in the occult. As I now reveal the meaning of the runes, please bear in mind that President George W. Bush wears an exact replica of this ring. I have an enlarged picture to prove it. The runes on the ring are interpreted as follows: "One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them, one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."

J.R.R. Tolkien was born in South Africa where his father, Arthur, managed a bank. When his father died, his mother, Mabel, returned with her children to Birmingham, England, where she converted to Roman Catholicism. J.R.R. Tolkien said, "I desired dragons with a profound desire." He soon became a prodigy and was speaking German, French, Latin, and flawless classical Greek. In speech, he would sometimes break out in Gothic, an ancient form of German. He would also speak medieval Welsh and Anglo-Saxon. Tolkien even developed new languages. One of them he called Elvish. He went on to say that the entire story of The Lord of the Rings came to him as a result of the new language that he invented. He was a professor at Oxford University as all of this was happening and as the story of elves, wizards, trolls, and hobbits poured into his mind. While it became a manuscript under his pen, he said, "My work has escaped from my control, I have produced a monster."

Tolkien, the devout Catholic and "Master of Middle Earth", converted his colleague C.S. Lewis and spent much time with him at the Oxford pub or tavern. They claimed to have "kindred spirits".

There is much rank blasphemy in Tolkien’s works, such as the death and resurrection of the wizard Gandalf, who falls into the pit and descends into hell but comes back transformed and stronger than ever. Deceived Christians say that this "good wizard" is a type of Christ! Tolkien even translated the Lord’s Prayer into the Elvish language.

I can say most assuredly that The Lord of the Rings trilogy comes from the pits of hell and is a clever instructional course in witchcraft disguised as fantasy and entertainment. Part one was released in movie form on December 19, 2001, shortly after the two towers of the World Trade Center came down. It was called "The Fellowship of the Ring." Part two was called "The Two Towers" and was released December 18, 2002. Part three is named "The Return of the King" and was released December 17, 2003, and is breaking all records for ticket sales. All three movies were released at the time of the witchcraft sabat of Yule!

It is my prayer as a preacher of the true Gospel that Christians will come fully awake. We do not find the saving Gospel in the Middle Earth with wizards, hobbits, and elves. We find the Gospel only in the Bible and through the blood of our Saviour Jesus.


For more information write to:

Last Trumpet Ministries
PO Box 806
Beaver Dam, WI 53916
USA

( http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/ )
 
rule number one... posting whole articles will get you in hot water..
unless....
it's yours... or you have the authors permission.

rule number two...
postings that long tend to get skimmed at best..
yes.. that is exactly what i just did....

Interesting point of order.. if you bother to actually read Tolkien's
works.. they really don't have any witchcraft in them..
You might note that the only ones that work magik in them are
not humans.. with the notable exception of a few artifacts of limited
and specific usage in the hands of mortals.

sooooo.... now I am actually curious.. is that piece yours...?
 
Dear Sparrow,

Thank you for posting your view. This article can be copied and freely distributed provided it is copied in its entirety and the name and details of the Author is mentioned. But, this article holds my opinion too. So, i have posted.

The Author (Pastor David.J.Meyer) is an Ex-Witch turned Christian Minister and is being used by the Lord as a Pastor since a few decades. IMHO he must be knowing more about Witchcraft and the harm such movies can render to our Spiritual life.

Sincerely,
Vincent
 
I'm sure he's a great fellow... but in the instance of Tolkiens works
he is for the most part incorrect.

thank you for bringing him to my attention though, I will se about
corresponding with him. :)

Sincerely,

Mark Bishop
ExWitch Ministries
 
I saw the movie. I don't feel the need to join the occult. I was entertained for a good few hours though. Strange, vinc, how you feel that you are in danger from such a movie. Are you not stronger than to want to go out and do whatever you see in a movie?
 
I have only one thing to say to the starter of this thread - it may perhaps be mildly childish but I believe it is the only reasonable answer for such hogwash (meaning that it deserves no more thoughtful of a reply). In the words of the beautiful lauguage created by JRR Tolkien:

Bado mibo yrch :roll:

thank you
Sheilagh (aka Arwen amongst friends)





p.s. for those who dont speak Elvish (of consider it "evil" :wink: ) , bado mibo yrch means "Go kiss an Orc"
 
I would say that the lion the witch and the wardrobe by C. S. Lewis dose not have the gospil in those books. eather

what is you veiw on the cronicles of narnia.?????????????
 
You don't see the gospel in "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe"? Really!? That was the whole point of the story - to get kids to read about the gospel of Christ.
 
Free said:
You don't see the gospel in "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe"? Really!? That was the whole point of the story - to get kids to read about the gospel of Christ.

Why not preach the gospel and encourage bible reading instead of giving Christian children mystical garbage and fairy tales.

Are Christians to use worldly methods to present the gospel?

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
 
As an avid reader for about 20 years of Tolkien's works as well as an avid researcher on the occult and Satanism, I can honestly say that this ex witch has no clue concerning Lord of the Rings.

First of all, Gandalf did not go to 'hell'. Being a Maia (an angelic being) he went back to Valinor (the undying lands or the heaven of Middle Earth) in the west and came back again with a new body to continue battling Sauron.

Second, just because Frodo has a 'cursed' object, doesn't make the story or himself evil. Rather, it is a quest to destroy all that is evil. What's wrong with that?

Unlike Harry Potter, the lines between good and evil are drawn quite clearly. The themes of LotR do not glorify evil, but rather show that good will triumph over evil. The powers of the Elves were specially given to them by Eru the creator. They are not practicing witchcraft. The wizards are really angelic beings sent by Eru to battle the evil of Sauron. Therefore, they have special powers that the mortals of Middle Earth do not have.

There is so much still wrong with the original post but I won't bother getting into it.

For those interested, I would highly recommend the book "Following Gandalf" to see how important moral characters and victories were to Tolkien.
 
from my own experience, i would say, witches are of the devil anything which displays the unnatural that are not of God are of the devil.

i used to love watching charmed ones before i was reborn, i loved the story of the 3 witches saving the day,fighting off demons, but it is all hog wash.

Instead of watching a pathetic, lie why not make time to read your bible, there is far more growth reading the bible than watching a programme built on fantasy!

As for me, i do not like Harry potter, lord of the rings or anything witchy, it does not feel right, and i am glad it doesn't!!!!!!!!

all those things draw you away i think... it is not healthy for your spirit. ask yourself this.. would Jesus watch Lord of the Rings and say ooh jolly good movie eh! NO way, i think He would turn it off and pray that no one gets fooled by this!
 
totally wrong in at least three areas.

First, the runes in the ring. Those are not runes. Runes are rough and crude, and not at all like what is in the ring. If you were really a witch, then you would know that.

Tolkien, as a child, developed a language and this is the written form of that language.

Second, in the appendix, it says that Gandalf was a messenger (the Bible would call a messenger an angel) and that he took human form.

This makes two things evident.
He was no human that practiced the craft. As an angel he had angelic power.

He didn't come back from the dead. He can't die, he's an angel type spirit.

Third, since Gandalf couldn't die, then he couldn't be resurrected, and this is not blasphemy.

Oh, the Balrog was called a demon of Morgoth.

Tolkien was as good a Christian as his friend CS Lewis.
 
When I first came to Christianity it was no wonder that I was attracted to WOF teachings of Meyer, Dollar and Osteen. Why? Because I practiced wicca for almost 20 years and I do know what I'm talking about.

I have since come to see that these preachers are teaching Christian witchcraft. There is even a book you can find in the New Age section called Christian Witchcraft.

Lord of the Rings is a great movie based on the fantasy world of J.R.R. Tolkien and the language on the ring is not written in runes, it is written in a language invented by Tolkien called elvish.

The movies that REALLY concern me are the Horror movies some people love to watch that depict violence and murder of human beings. Why oh why do some people want to watch people being murdered so viciously?

Back to the point....What is the supposed connection between LOTR movies and 9/11? Because one of the movies is called The Two Towers? The LOTR trilogy book was written back in the 50's!
 
Divine_Design_21 said:
g murdered so viciously?
Back to the point....What is the supposed connection between LOTR movies and 9/11? Because one of the movies is called The Two Towers? The LOTR trilogy book was written back in the 50's!

Yes, some people bring political correctness into everything even when it makes no sense.

The Lord of the Rings is not occultic but fantasy. It is not about witches and spells but a history of a mythology with parallels to the Christian 'myth' (from a definition point of view).

So many Christians associate 'fantasy' with 'satanism and occultism' when the two aren't always the same thing and can jive with Christian views as well. It is amazing how many mainstream Christians will bash and jump on any bandwagon without knowing the facts. Knowledge is needed before people begin jumping to absurd conclusions about something they seem to think they know when they don't have a clue.
 
  • "Let me open by frankly admitting that my position on The Lord of the Rings has not always been crystal clear. I have wrestled with the issues I am addressing here for many years but with so much else going on in our ministry I just never took the time to personally do any in-depth research on the topic. In days past I was somewhat neutral concerning Tolkien’s work, in particular The Lord of the Rings; and I usually responded that it may be somehow acceptable for some Christians to read the books. Then when the motion picture versions of the Rings trilogy became blockbusters, the volume of questions directed my way greatly increased, which started me on a quest to know more about Tolkien and his works. This paper is to finally resolve any confusion about the issue.

    After much study and prayer and after what I believe to be the conviction of the Holy Spirit dealing with my heart, I am no longer taking a neutral position. I have come to the final conclusion that those wishing to be consistent with scripture should completely abstain from endorsing, reading the books, or watching the motion picture adaptations of The Lord of the Rings. This is not merely my opinion. I have come to this conclusion by both surveying the Bible for related information which points to God’s will and by surveying the culture and noting its ready acceptance of witchcraft and the occult in our day. If you are a Tolkien fan and in particular a Believer in Christ, then please indulge me as I lay out my case. I am not saying that anyone is necessarily demonized or living in sin by reading Rings; however, biblically minded Christians will want to at least entertain my thoughts and hold them up against the Scriptures to see if they are indeed valid.

    I am excruciatingly aware of how disconcerting my position will be to some. Though I do not relish it, I often find myself on the opposing side of popular issues. I am well aware that many popular voices from both within and outside of the church have given glowing endorsements of Tolkien’s trilogy. I know that my words will undoubtedly be compared to them; being praised by some and disdained by a great many as well. Please believe me that I am in no way presenting this information to be cantankerous, controversial, or to merely draw attention to myself as a legalistic “radical.†It is being consistent with biblical themes and godly commands that concerns me here and not whether I am in step with the ideas of others. I am aware that I may be writing this piece at the cost of sacrificing future speaking invitations from churches or conferences and at the possible cost of financial support as well. I know that this has been the case in the past because of my position opposing such issues as Freemasonry in the Church. I regret this, but if truth is at stake, so be it.
Complete article "Lord of the Rings: Christian or Cultic?" by Eric Barger, April 2004
can be retrieved from http://www.ericbarger.com/lotr.c.c.2.htm
 
sparrow said:
The mods can do as they wish with this discussion J-L. but I am basically
finished with it now.

Mark

I've got a better idea...how about we start talking about the thread of the topic so you can still participate?

and bornagainpagan, why don't you take some of those arguments that these websites level against LoTR and we can discuss their contents?
 
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