A job from hell

[Kathi]

I think their is at least one of two Cruella's in a job.The executives and CEO's are making big bucks driving BMW's while they are shorting the small person and cutting their pay and benefits.They would not have a company if it were not for these people.It all has to do with GREED and the dollar signs in their eyes.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I think their is at least one of two Cruella's in a job.The executives and CEO's are making big bucks driving BMW's while they are shorting the small person and cutting their pay and benefits.They would not have a company if it were not for these people.It all has to do with GREED and the dollar signs in their eyes.

Welcome to the real world.
The days of unions and pensions and 20 years on the job are gone.
The middle class keeps getting smaller.
I guess there are 2 things.
1. You need to pay your bills.
2. You need to be happy with what you are doing.
I hope things work out.
Another thing to pray for.
Where would we be without Jesus?

 

[Kathi]

Welcome to the real world.
The days of unions and pensions and 20 years on the job are gone.
The middle class keeps getting smaller.
I guess there are 2 things.
1. You need to pay your bills.
2. You need to be happy with what you are doing.
I hope things work out.
Another thing to pray for.
Where would we be without Jesus?

We would be lost without Jesus.Maybe we should pray for the millions who are now without Jesus.

 

[jasonc]

Welcome to the real world.
The days of unions and pensions and 20 years on the job are gone.
The middle class keeps getting smaller.
I guess there are 2 things.
1. You need to pay your bills.
2. You need to be happy with what you are doing.
I hope things work out.
Another thing to pray for.
Where would we be without Jesus?

I would say on the way out. I have the option to join a union and I still have a pension plan, albeit it costs more and pays out less.

 

[Kathi]

I would say on the way out. I have the option to join a union and I still have a pension plan, albeit it costs more and pays out less.

I have dealt with a Union that was one of the most powerful in the world with amazing pay and benefits and I have dealt with a Mickey Mouse Union that was not worth 2 cents because you paid high union fees and they did not stay behind you.I have dealt with non- Union companies that can say "we just don't like you" and you are fired.

 

[reba]

Yup exactly Kathi that is how they are

 

[jasonc]

I have dealt with a Union that was one of the most powerful in the world with amazing pay and benefits and I have dealt with a Mickey Mouse Union that was not worth 2 cents because you paid high union fees and they did not stay behind you.I have dealt with non- Union companies that can say "we just don't like you" and you are fired.

florida, thankfully, is a right to work state, if it wasn't, police and firefighters could strike. im with a government owned utility.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Yup exactly Kathi that is how they are

I was told by a lawyer once that if my boss didn't like the color of my tie, he could fire me.

 

[Kathi]

I was told by a lawyer once that if my boss didn't like the color of my tie, he could fire me.

But if you have a good lawyer you can solve that

 

[jasonc]

But if you have a good lawyer you can solve that

you could but well they might fire your for another reason, if they do and get away with that, good luck finding a job if that is in a small town. I pondered suing a job over my national guard duties and figured its easier to quit then waste money winning a lawsuit to just make the same amount of money. so I left.

 

[Kathi]

you could but well they might fire your for another reason, if they do and get away with that, good luck finding a job if that is in a small town. I pondered suing a job over my national guard duties and figured its easier to quit then waste money winning a lawsuit to just make the same amount of money. so I left.

You can get unemployment if you are fired for inappropriate reasons.Now if you are fired because you did not come into work or for drugs or alcohol you will not get it.

 

[jasonc]

You can get unemployment if you are fired for inappropriate reasons.Now if you are fired because you did not come into work or for drugs or alcohol you will not get it.

florida is a bit different. if you are fired at all and you did do wrong, nothing. if were fired because of discrimination that is another matter. only layoff will you get any money

 

[Danus]

I think their is at least one of two Cruella's in a job.The executives and CEO's are making big bucks driving BMW's while they are shorting the small person and cutting their pay and benefits.They would not have a company if it were not for these people.It all has to do with GREED and the dollar signs in their eyes.

Well yes, but that greed extends to many people.
All companies reach a point of "saturation". That's the point where the market is saturated for the product or service they deal in. At that point, to make more money, they have to grow and gain more market share, but even that, in and of itself, does not cut it, because the cost of doing business is also an issue; the cost of being bigger etc. They have to look for others ways to gain an advantage and that is usually in cost.

Publicly traded companies, like the one I work for, are interested in market share, but more than that, viability within that market. We have to be lean and mean to be seen as healthy to investors, who in-turn buy shares. The value of those shares have to remain strong. If that means cutting jobs or cost then so be it. We don't have a unique product or service. No one in our business is any "better" than anyone else. Market share and Cost is all we have to deal in.

I get paid bonuses for for cutting cost and growing market share. This means that I go in and undercut bids from other companies to take business away from them so we can do it, even if we break even or loose a little. We are big enough to do that, and I get paid to do it.

Smaller companies go out of business from the direct result of what I do, but we also grow and create jobs. I've undercut some small companies from their business and then turned right around and contracted the same company "shut out" to do the same business they lost at less money, and gotten a big fat check for it. One could say I'm a bad person I guess, but at the same time I have created value in my company, jobs, etc. That's just how the world works....talk about a job from hell.

 

[Kathi]

Well yes, but that greed extends to many people.
All companies reach a point of "saturation". That's the point where the market is saturated for the product or service they deal in. At that point, to make more money, they have to grow and gain more market share, but even that, in and of itself, does not cut it, because the cost of doing business is also an issue; the cost of being bigger etc. They have to look for others ways to gain an advantage and that is usually in cost.

Publicly traded companies, like the one I work for, are interested in market share, but more than that, viability within that market. We have to be lean and mean to be seen as healthy to investors, who in-turn buy shares. The value of those shares have to remain strong. If that means cutting jobs or cost then so be it. We don't have a unique product or service. No one in our business is any "better" than anyone else. Market share and Cost is all we have to deal in.

I get paid bonuses for for cutting cost and growing market share. This means that I go in and undercut bids from other companies to take business away from them so we can do it, even if we break even or loose a little. We are big enough to do that, and I get paid to do it.

Smaller companies go out of business from the direct result of what I do, but we also grow and create jobs. I've undercut some small companies from their business and then turned right around and contracted the same company "shut out" to do the same business they lost at less money, and gotten a big fat check for it. One could say I'm a bad person I guess, but at the same time I have created value in my company, jobs, etc. That's just how the world works....talk about a job from hell.

Are you a CEO or executive of a company?

 

[Danus]

Are you a CEO or executive of a company?

No. I'm a broker for a logistics company. I am like a sales middleman. I look for business, bid it, & contract out what we don't want.

 

[Deborah13]

But if you have a good lawyer you can solve that

Colorado is an 'at will state', the employer can fire anyone for any reason, except discrimination (age, gender, etc.). Other than that they don't even have to give a reason. A lawyer can't help under this law.

 

[Deborah13]

Well yes, but that greed extends to many people.
All companies reach a point of "saturation". That's the point where the market is saturated for the product or service they deal in. At that point, to make more money, they have to grow and gain more market share, but even that, in and of itself, does not cut it, because the cost of doing business is also an issue; the cost of being bigger etc. They have to look for others ways to gain an advantage and that is usually in cost.

Publicly traded companies, like the one I work for, are interested in market share, but more than that, viability within that market. We have to be lean and mean to be seen as healthy to investors, who in-turn buy shares. The value of those shares have to remain strong. If that means cutting jobs or cost then so be it. We don't have a unique product or service. No one in our business is any "better" than anyone else. Market share and Cost is all we have to deal in.

I get paid bonuses for for cutting cost and growing market share. This means that I go in and undercut bids from other companies to take business away from them so we can do it, even if we break even or loose a little. We are big enough to do that, and I get paid to do it.

Smaller companies go out of business from the direct result of what I do, but we also grow and create jobs. I've undercut some small companies from their business and then turned right around and contracted the same company "shut out" to do the same business they lost at less money, and gotten a big fat check for it. One could say I'm a bad person I guess, but at the same time I have created value in my company, jobs, etc. That's just how the world works....talk about a job from hell.

I would hate that kind of job. The world of big business is not pretty but sometimes we have to live in it. God speed.

 

[Danus]

I would hate that kind of job. The world of big business is not pretty but sometimes we have to live in it. God speed.

I find myself in conflict a lot. My heads been on the chopping block a lot over the years for not being "ruthless" enough to satisfy the gold lust of the company or investors. There have been times when I've said we're making enough, in meetings and such. They don't like to hear that, but at the same time I'm known as someone with integrity (in my world that does not require much)

 

[Deborah13]

I find myself in conflict a lot. My heads been on the chopping block a lot over the years for not being "ruthless" enough to satisfy the gold lust of the company or investors. There have been times when I've said we're making enough, in meetings and such. They don't like to hear that, but at the same time I'm known as someone with integrity (in my world that does not require much)

Now I don't agree with you, your integrity requires very much. Anyone looking at someone who is truthful enough to speak up openly and take the chance on losing out because of it, has to see that that person is the most honest and the one they can truly trust.