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golfjack

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I believe today we have to get into the Prophetic Ministry. We must get rid of all that religious stuff and not listen to religious spirits, who want to keep us in the past. You see, we must get into a new thing. What you say? Does the Bible declare that? It sure does. Go to Isaiah 48:6-7: You have heard; see all this. And will you not declare it? I have made you hear new things from this time, even hidden things, and you do not know them. 7. They are created now and and not from the beginning; And before this day you have not heard them, lest you should say, of course I knew them.

Do you want to see and hear new things from the Lord? I do. Do you want to see angels ministering to us? I do. Do you want Gopd to answer you? I do. Go to Ezekiel 44:4: Also He brought me by way of the north gate to the front of the temple; so I looked, and behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house of the Lord; and I fell on my face. Verse 5 says mark well, see with your eyes and hear with your ears.

Folks, we should make attitude adjustments to see the glory of God. Get rid of old things like old hymns, old preaching, and all that stuff that blocks out what God wants to do in these last days. Have you eyes anointed with eye salve, and you ears too. We have to change the way we do church to get to a new thing. HIS GLORY, HIS GLORY, MANY MIRACLES, OUR CHILDREN GETTING SAVED, NEW MINISTRIES THAT ARE NOT AFRAID TO PROPHESY, AND MINISTER TO PEOPLE THAT THEY MAY SEE THE GLORY.



May God bless, golfjack
 
golfjack said:
....Get rid of old things like old hymns....
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There is an anointing in the old hymns that can not be found in the new songs.

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Power, power wonder working power in the precious blood of the lamb!
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What do you mean by get rid of 'old hymms' and 'old preaching', golfjack?
Would you give an example please?
 
You are my sunshie, my only sunshine, you make me hap-py, when skies are gray... Sorry could not help myself.
 
golfjack said:
Get rid of old things like old hymns, old preaching, and all that stuff that blocks out what God wants to do in these last days.
May God bless, golfjack
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NO! lol

Take away hymns like It is Well and How Great Thou Art and you're in big trouble mister! 8-)

What God wants is this, like it used to be... and should be:

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

To dump the old for the new is against this:

Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

2 Timothy 4

2 preach the Word, be urgent in season, out of season, convict, warn, encourage with all long-suffering and teaching.
3 For a time will be when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own lusts, they will heap up to themselves teachers tickling the ear;
4 and they will turn away the ear from the truth and will be turned aside to myths.
5 But you be clear-minded in all, suffer hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fully carry out your ministry.

2 Peter 2
1 But false prophets were also among the people, as also false teachers will be among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, and denying the Master who has bought them, bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2 And many will follow their destructive ways, by whom the way of truth will be evil spoken of.
3 And by covetousness, with well-turned words, they will use you for gain, for whom judgment of old does not linger, and their destruction does not slumber
 
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Galatians 1

6 I wonder that you are so quickly turning back from the One having called you by the grace of Christ to another gospel,
7 which is not another; only there are some troubling you, even determined to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel out of Heaven, should preach a gospel to you beside the gospel we preached to you, let him be accursed.
9 As we have said before, and now I say again, If anyone preaches a gospel beside what you received, let him be accursed.
 
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Galatians 1

6 I wonder that you are so quickly turning back from the One having called you by the grace of Christ to another gospel,
7 which is not another; only there are some troubling you, even determined to pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But even if we, or an angel out of Heaven, should preach a gospel to you beside the gospel we preached to you, let him be accursed.
9 As we have said before, and now I say again, If anyone preaches a gospel beside what you received, let him be accursed.
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Exactly right. I'm a little flabbergasted after reading the o.p. ...It's too sad to joke about.
 
Not all are gifted for prophetic ministry. Each has his/her own gift. Some retain the "old" values/traditions for as good a reason as those who are gifted to venture into other areas.
golfjack,
I see your point and believe me I do understand where you're coming from. But I've known prayer warriors, those that went into the clergy, some that hosted home studies, those that have the gift of hospitality... just about every function one can name.
It's like all are within the army of God where some are foot-soldiers, some are archers, some are horseman... all under one supreme commander. Same with the workings of a church... you have intercessors, worship leaders, musicians, treasurers, nursery, teachers for children ranked by age, maintanence ... all under one pastor. Had a pastor once that said he couldn't do what a nursery mom does. Bless 'em. And believe me he meant it. :D

At any rate I doubt many will want to ditch "Rock of ages" or "Amazing Grace". Those old hymns say a lot and I believe many were God-inspired anyway.
 
Vic C. said:
Aah, 1 Corinthians 12:1-31, Rick. :angel:
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There ya go.
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Same pastor warned... "If it's true it's not new. If it's new it's not true."
Besides, we are all told to watch and keep our wicks trimmed.
 
I believe we should look for and pray for a new annointing. This may or may not require the loss of some old styles but I expect that will depend on area and God's plan for it. For example, some new annointings in churches have brought about services with only 'modern songs', but other churches have been started with no big group service worship time but are just cell churches. The cells that worship with song and hymns do, the cells that worship in other expressions may not sing.

I believe we should all recognise that with a new annointing some things must be laid to rest, resurection and new life from death after all, but this is God call for/to individuals and shouldn't be a broad stroke which says there shouldn't be old hymns anymore.
 
Hi Jack,

I believe that our gifts are to be utilized for the corporate body of the church, to edify, and build, one another, but they should not divide us. They are ultimately for God's purpose. To be honest, I don't understand some of the gifts of others, and I have found that they sometimes do not understand mine either. I think the key thing is to trust God to lead us to trust other believers, and their gifts, but our world is so dreadfully cynical. Maybe we should all learn how to test the spirits, I don't know, but there is some sort of breakdown that divides, and causes us to be suspicious. Men are sinful, but we must learn to look past the sin, and see our family in Christ, and grow in truth, and love, with them.

I make an effort to glean Truth from all that I am able...commentary, old hymns, old sermons, new hymns, and new sermons, just fellowship, and discussion, with brothers and sisters...none of this stuff is without error. But they should be filtered through the Scripture, and the Holy Spirit, each teach me new things every day, and that is why I am able to sing a new song before the Lord. That is why my mind is renewed daily. All the rest, simply reflect the Truth of the Word, and the experience of the Holy Spirit teaching a believer in His walk. We sing about it, and preach about it, and worship God for it in prayer, word, and song. I don't think there is a timeline on this truth. I think this newness, and growth, is found in an old sermon, and an old hymn, which can be just as new to me, and the new sermons, and new hymns, which may even strike a old familiar tone of past truth learned.

The church, as a whole, needs to grow in Truth by being reminded of the old, and digging deep into the new...but I don't think this refers to the timeline of the song, or sermon, but where we are in our walk as individuals, and as a whole, and how much Truth we can feast on.

Every word that we speak to one another should be to further God's kingdom, and edify, and none...as long as it reflects God's wonderful Truth...should be rejected. "If we will search after wisdom as gold, many hidden treasures will unfold"...Judy Rogers. (based on Proverbs) I will just keep panning for God's gold in every river and stream because the water is ever moving, stirring, and forming. The Lord bless you.
 
C'mon Jack - you've been silent for almost a week after starting this thread. Give us some ideas of what you are talking about - both the old 'religious spirit' stuff and new 'anointed' stuff.

Is this perhaps another 'golf' jack strategy :wink: - hit the ball, ball goes into the rough and outa sight so rather than look for it you play another, hoping for a better shot that doesn't penalise your score card any further. :D
 
Well, I was left with more questions here than answers myself, mutz. :-D

For instance..
Do you want to see and hear new things from the Lord? I do. Do you want to see angels ministering to us?
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Golfjack, you are still in the "non-denomination" that I came out of. A friend of mine left a few months ago because they were teaching the children how to communicate with angels during sunday school.
I have also read through different e-lists that there is an unhealthy fascination with angelic beings within certain sects of the charasmatic movement.
My honest question is, what are you guys being taught concerning angels?

I knew exactly what you meant when you said ...
Folks, we should make attitude adjustments to see the glory of God. Get rid of old things like old hymns, old preaching
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This is exactly what they did at our old church.
They got rid of the 'old' preaching methods that caused self examination and conviction of sin. (this is more serious than hymms, btw)
The results were of course disastrous, the church became just like the world in a short time. But hey, they are comfortable, tolerant, and no longer have to face reality, because there is no one left who will tell them what reality really is.
So, I am genuinly curious as to what this 'new thing' is to you?
 
mutzrein said:
C'mon Jack - you've been silent for almost a week after starting this thread. Give us some ideas of what you are talking about - both the old 'religious spirit' stuff and new 'anointed' stuff.

Is this perhaps another 'golf' jack strategy :wink: - hit the ball, ball goes into the rough and outa sight so rather than look for it you play another, hoping for a better shot that doesn't penalise your score card any further. :D
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Actually, I too have been waiting and am curious..
Wow mutz and destiny I am in agreement with you here :wink:
 
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Destiny, Why do you critize so much? My goodness, you don't even go to church. I suspect that you can't find one that fits into what you think a church to be. So, you have a lot of room to talk. One new thing would be another Azuza street revival, which disappeared when all the religious spirits got in. As far as I am concerned, the devil has been lying to much to God's people.



May God bless, golfjack
 
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Jg. I guess you agree with someone who doesn't believe that Jesus is God.

The reason I haven't responded that much is because most if not all are either Baptist or reformed Christians. You see, you can stay in the anointing of Jonathon Edwards or get on to a new thing.



May God bless, golfjack
 
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golfjack said:
Destiny, Why do you critize so much? My goodness, you don't even go to church. I suspect that you can't find one that fits into what you think a church to be. So, you have a lot of room to talk. One new thing would be another Azuza street revival, which disappeared when all the religious spirits got in. As far as I am concerned, the devil has been lying to much to God's people.



May God bless, golfjack
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What does Azuza street revival have to do with getting rid of 'old' hymms and preaching? And again, what is considered 'old' hymms and preaching, and how will they stop revival?
 
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