[_ Old Earth _] A scientist recants.

[reznwerks]

"Bob Davidson is a scientist  a doctor, and for 28 years a nephrology professor at the University of Washington medical school."
He is one of the scientists that signed his name to be included on the Discovery Institutes list of scientists that support ID. He is a devout Christian who believes in God. However after further thought he now realizes he was wrong and has had his name removed from the list. Here are some interesting comments he has made.


"When I joined I didn't think they were about bashing evolution. It's pseudo-science, at best ... What they're doing is instigating a conflict between science and religion"

"the scientific evidence for evolution is overwhelming."

"I'm kind of embarrassed that I ever got involved with this,"

He was shocked, he says, when he saw the Discovery Institute was calling evolution a "theory in crisis."

"It's laughable: There have been millions of experiments over more than a century that support evolution," he says. "There's always questions being asked about parts of the theory, as there are with any theory, but there's no real scientific controversy about it."

"It just clicked with me that this whole movement is wrongheaded on all counts," Davidson said. "It's a misuse of science, and a misuse of religion.

"Why can't we just keep the two separate?"

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... nny24.html

 

[Barbarian]

Michael Denton's (of "Evolution; A Theory in Crisis") latest book "Nature's Destiny" reveals that Denton has become an evolutionist and a methodological naturalist.

As it becomes increasingly clear that ID has no substance, more and more of those initially attracted to it (including myself) have abandoned it.

As the movement falls apart, increasingly bizarre publicity stunts and lobbying are taking place to convince people that it's still a viable idea.

 

[MrVersatile48]

Post subject: Just search 4 truth @ the phoney arguments for neo-Darwinist drivel @ http://www.creationism.org & http://www.discovery.org/csc & http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org - & in their "Revised & Expanded Answers Book" - by their multi-disciplinary MSc/PhD-level leaders - pages 113-130 8-)

OH: they'll all aloso have details of hundreds of top scientists, from astronomy to microbiology, who see SOOO much evidence of Intelligent Design, they reject the atheism of their brainwashing uni/college indoctrination & now worship the Almighty Creator

Any who read he back cover feature of Designer Revolution mag will know that 1 of the mosr famous former evo-loopies, Sir Anthony Flew, is just 1 of those who say that all scientific observation & evidence points to ID - even tho' he hasn't yet been publicised as making the logical next step into firm faith in Christ - several ID'ers are similar, so don't belive the lies that ID is just Christian propaganda - if you check the many threads in this forum, you'll know that both Rez & Conan have read much overwhelming ID & creationist evidence :roll:

As the Bible prophesied, there are many antichrists - (2 Thesalonians 2) - & many false prophets/teachers/brethren.christs/messiahs - (Matt 24, etc) :evil:

John 1, Col 1 & Heb 1 are all VERY clear that Christ is the Almighty Creator in human form

Jesus said, "If you deny Me before men, I will deny you before My Father"

He also said, "If you are ashamed of Me & of My words, I will be ashamed of you"

Altogether now... :P

1/2/3...

"When ya pooper-scoop evo-loopy-poop... :o

don't forget to wash your hands now!!!!!" :-D

Must go!

Ian :wink:

 

[Barbarian]

they'll all aloso have details of hundreds of top scientists,

Why not name 10 of the top ones? Very best you can find in all those lists.
How many Nobel Laureates? How many PhD biologists?

Not too many, um? In fact, a lot of those "scientists" are really dentists, preachers, hairdressers, and the like, aren't they?

Here's a good way to measure. Right now, there are almost 650 people with doctorates in biology or a closely related field that endorse the theory of evolution. Oh, and all of them are named "Steve." (or a derivation)
http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articl ... 6_2003.asp

from astronomy to microbiology, who see SOOO much evidence of Intelligent Design,

How many Biology PhDs do you have, named "Steve?"

they reject the atheism of their brainwashing uni/college indoctrination & now worship the Almighty Creator

Most scientists are theists, the majority of us, Christians. I took my first course in evolution from a professor who was on the board of the local Episcopal church.

Any who read he back cover feature of Designer Revolution mag will know that 1 of the mosr famous former evo-loopies, Sir Anthony Flew,

Flew is a philosopher, not a scientist. Most scientists never heard of him.

is just 1 of those who say that all scientific observation & evidence points to ID

You've been suckered on that one. Flew thinks there is a creator, but he's an evolutionist. If they'll lie to you about that, why do you think they won't lie about all of it?

even tho' he hasn't yet been publicised as making the logical next step into firm faith in Christ - several ID'ers are similar, so don't belive the lies that ID is just Christian propaganda

We know that's a lie, because the Rev. Jonathan Wells is leading the charge, and he's admitted he was sent by the Moonies to do it. If you're a Christian, that's the wrong side.

if you check the many threads in this forum, you'll know that both Rez & Conan have read much overwhelming ID & creationist evidence

Why not give us you #1 evidence for ID? So far, everytime I ask for some, everyone changes the subject.

As the Bible prophesied, there are many antichrists - (2 Thesalonians 2) - & many false prophets/teachers/brethren.christs/messiahs - (Matt 24, etc)

How would you classify the Rev. Myung Son Moon, and his IDers?

John 1, Col 1 & Heb 1 are all VERY clear that Christ is the Almighty Creator in human form

Jesus said, "If you deny Me before men, I will deny you before My Father"

So who are you with? Christians or Moonies? Most Christians acknowledge that evolution is consistent with our faith. All moonies have been given orders by their leader to refuse to believe that.

You can't serve both God and ID. You will love one and hate the other. Your call.