Act like you're Not Married

[samuel]

Well my response to that, would be. If this is the millennium, I sure and certainly would not want to go to Hell.

Unless you are going to spiritualize it, or consider the Church fulfills it, and the fact 2000 years have passed, which is more that 1000. It does not make concrete doctrine. On top of that! there is no Biblical support, for such an idea.

 

[researcher]

Well my response to that, would be. If this is the millennium, I sure and certainly would not want to go to Hell.

Unless you are going to spiritualize it, or consider the Church fulfills it, and the fact 2000 years have passed, which is more that 1000. It does not make concrete doctrine. On top of that! there is no Biblical support, for such an idea.

You wouldn't go to hell. You would be part of the saints (Rev 20:9). Saints don't go to hell last time I checked.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

thousand
G5507
chilioi
Plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand: - thousand.

The word used for "thousand" (chilioi) in Rev. 20 is plural, meaning, more than 1.
The singular word for thousand is chilias. It's like the difference between years, and year.
And it's been almost 2000 years now.

Actually, I believe there is more Biblical support than for any other idea.

Rev 3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write
Rev 3:11 'I am coming quickly! Be holding fast what you have

Rev 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments

Rev 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write;
Rev 3:3 ... If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Those churches existed 1900 years ago.

 

[samuel]

I once heard a Bible teacher, with which I must agree. If your interpretation of Scripture is in conflict with the majority, maybe you had better check it again.

The problem with most eschatology, is in the interpretation. Or trying to answer every little point, when there is no scripture to support it. This leads to many different opinions, I think at last count I have read at least 12-15 different ideas on Revelation. And I am waiting on another book, that also has a different idea.

I really think that is why people have turned to some other explanations, which are no more sound than the last 12. I think most of us, really need to go back to school on eschatology.

 

[skylene]

Thank you for your interesting quotes at the beginning of this thread. I am afraid that a person not fully grounded in the knowledge of Jesus would believe Paul is saying to abandon your family and never show any emotion.
We must take scripture into context and also read and read and read. Many other scriptures talk about the sanctity of marriage. Also others talk about emotion. even Jesus wept.

As for the return of the LORD. there is a passage that says all this will be hidden until that day. I am not sure where to find it right now but i believe what God was telling us is that until that day we will not ve able to understand the scripture.

100 years ago they taught that the rebirth of isreal was spiritual. In 48 it bacame a reality and because we have witnessed it our eyes have been open and it is no longer hidden from us...

I wonder what revelations GOD will give us next.

 

[samuel]

I have an old commentary by H.A.Ironside, his idea was that the tribulation would start with the restoration of Israel to the land. I guess he blew that one. Hal Lindsay also blew it, no battle of Armageddon in 1975.

I think we just need to trust, that all things will workout according to Gods purpose. And he will reveal all things in his good time. :yes

 

[researcher]

I once heard a Bible teacher, with which I must agree. If your interpretation of Scripture is in conflict with the majority, maybe you had better check it again.

The problem with most eschatology, is in the interpretation. Or trying to answer every little point, when there is no scripture to support it. This leads to many different opinions, I think at last count I have read at least 12-15 different ideas on Revelation. And I am waiting on another book, that also has a different idea.

I really think that is why people have turned to some other explanations, which are no more sound than the last 12. I think most of us, really need to go back to school on eschatology.

There are many modern scholars who think they "have" it, and ones from the past also.
I wonder what is better, believing the "modern" scholars, or, the Apostles who actually walked with Jesus, healed the sick, raised the dead, cast out demons, walked on water, killed people with words from their mouths, were teleported to other areas, caught up to the 3rd heaven, and evangelized the whole world in their time. Jesus did warn of the professional scribes, lawyers, and pharisees. Maybe their modern equivalents should not be believed either. Well, at least until they can do some of the above.

So if Jesus said -
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

And Paul said -
Col 1:23 ...not moved away from the hope of the gospel which ye heard, which was preached in all creation under heaven

And -
Tit 2:11 For the saving grace of God was manifested to all men,

Then, maybe I should just take their word for it that it actually did happen, instead of listening to all of the modern "prophets" explain away why it didn't.

At least, until I see one of them raise someone from dead.

 

[researcher]

As for the return of the LORD. there is a passage that says all this will be hidden until that day. I am not sure where to find it right now but i believe what God was telling us is that until that day we will not ve able to understand the scripture.

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.
Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken through.

Master of the house = Satan, the god of this world
Thief = Jesus (I am coming as a thief)
House = the world

The Father was the only one who knew because if Satan found out the time, he would have stopped the angels from gathering the elect (Mat 24:31).

I wonder what revelations GOD will give us next.

That he came back already and you're in the millennium right before the very end of the world? :o ;)

 

[skylene]

That he came back already and you're in the millennium right before the very end of the world? :o ;)

Don't you think that if this had happened allready the landscape arroung isreal would have changed so Jerusalem was on a mountain and that all nations would need to go to jerusalem once a year to worship the Lord or have no rain for that year?

Have you read Zechariah?

 

[Jon-Marc]

There are a lot of married men and women who act like they're single, which is why they cheat on their spouse.

 

[skylene]

There are a lot of married men and women who act like they're single, which is why they cheat on their spouse.

I agree. Before i was married i became friends with a man I met while taking a class. We even walked home together. We lived within a couple blocks of each other. It was not until I called his house that i found out he was married. He never told me. Did not wear a wedding ring. His wife was also pregnant. I was devistated. I had started to really like him only to discover he belonged to someone else.
What saddens me more is that others in the class knew and did not tell me either.
I regreat what happened to this day and it never would have happened if he had been honest about being married. I am glad that it never became more then a friendship.
Just another example of why we need act married if we are.

 

[researcher]

That he came back already and you're in the millennium right before the very end of the world? :o ;)

Don't you think that if this had happened allready the landscape arroung isreal would have changed so Jerusalem was on a mountain and that all nations would need to go to jerusalem once a year to worship the Lord or have no rain for that year?

Have you read Zechariah?

Some (or all) of that is talking about after the millennium -
Zechariah
Zec 14:8 And it shall come to pass in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
Zec 14:11 And men shall dwell therein, and there shall be no more curse;

Revelation
Rev 22:1 And he showed me a river of water of life, bright as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb,

Rev 22:3 And there shall be no curse any more:

Doesn't happen until a long time after the second coming. Which is why I believe we are at the end of the millennium.