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Alex Jones

Ah, the Sons of Thunder! James & John. To think John was the beloved disciple, the only one not to be martyred, was a son of thunder. I get a little thunderous myself from time to time, in a recent post I called some of my fellow countrymen "cheering assassins dancing around the asherah pole".

You do realize those of us Believers who are against the New World Order understand we are at war? We know & recognize that the leader of the NWO is the ancient serpent - Satan. That Globalism is pure antichrist as its sole purpose is to usurp true globalism - the Kingdom of Christ.

When someone swears on the altar of God eternal hostility towards all things antichrist I'll have no problem with it.

I understand what you are saying, but that is not the issue at hand. I concede that I truly believed that Alex Jones was not a Christian. Learning this is rather shocking to me.

The spirit in which he is operating is not the Spirit of God.

I have no problem with conspiracy theorists Christians. I tend to enjoy a conspiracy theory here and there myself. However, Mr. Jones is spreading some terror around and that is problematic. The fact that he is doing all this under the title "Christian" is even worse.

The Sons of Thunder were rebuked for their condemnation by Christ. Mr. Jones needs to realize that our fight is not against "flesh and blood." Globalization is a Biblical prophecy, there is no way he can defeat it, the reign of the antichrist must come so that Christ can return.
 
Mr. Jones needs to realize that our fight is not against "flesh and blood." Globalization is a Biblical prophecy, there is no way he can defeat it, the reign of the antichrist must come so that Christ can return.

Indeed. However, I think a big part of his goal is to just wake people up to what is going on. The more souls we can get on Jesus' side will be the ultimate victory anyway.
 
Indeed. However, I think a big part of his goal is to just wake people up to what is going on. The more souls we can get on Jesus' side will be the ultimate victory anyway.

I agree, but that's what the simple message of the Gospel is for. We are called to imitate Christ, but how does Jones' radio show call people to Christ? Instead, he condemns people to hell and contradicts the Word of God. When is the life saving, power of the cross Gospel being preached? Where is the call to repentance?

I think 1 Corinthians 1 really speaks to his methods of "waking people up."
 
I understand what you are saying, but that is not the issue at hand. I concede that I truly believed that Alex Jones was not a Christian. Learning this is rather shocking to me.

The spirit in which he is operating is not the Spirit of God.

I have no problem with conspiracy theorists Christians. I tend to enjoy a conspiracy theory here and there myself. However, Mr. Jones is spreading some terror around and that is problematic. The fact that he is doing all this under the title "Christian" is even worse.

The Sons of Thunder were rebuked for their condemnation by Christ. Mr. Jones needs to realize that our fight is not against "flesh and blood." Globalization is a Biblical prophecy, there is no way he can defeat it, the reign of the antichrist must come so that Christ can return.

I'm not into theory. I want truth. I am told to gird myself with truth. I am also told to do all I can to stand. I refuse to concede victory to none except my King. I will not concede till I see my King's victory. I pledge to fight Satan till I draw my last breath.

Satan has been slinging stuff on the wall for years now trying to see what will stick. He was trying that when our founding generation stood up to defend these shores & Christian liberty. They believed the stamp act was the mark of the beast, they thought the East India Company was a beast out of the sea, that mad king george was antichrist, why they were so concerned about the laws of the sea, maritime law. Why mad king george called it a "pastors revolt". Our historians now only teach very little about the founding generations & what they do teach is mostly wrong. It was our pastors who rallied the people & led militias. I'm so thankful they did not concede victory because it was inevitable.

I pray our pastors will rally again, do all they can to stand. I pray for a new great awakening putting the serpent back in his place so the Kingdom of Christ can reach more souls before the final time comes.
 
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death

This is the complete text of Patrick Henry's speech
at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia on March 23, 1775.

No man, Mr. President, thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony.

The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging.

And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free — if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending — if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained — we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable — and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace — but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!



Amen!
My ultimate patriotism is to the Kingdom of Christ.
 
I'm not into theory. I want truth. I am told to gird myself with truth. I am also told to do all I can to stand.

What is Truth? Rather Who is Truth? There is only One Truth in this world and His name is Christ the Lord.

I refuse to concede victory to none except my King. I will not concede till I see my King's victory. I pledge to fight Satan till I draw my last breath.

Satan has been slinging stuff on the wall for years now trying to see what will stick. He was trying that when our founding generation stood up to defend these shores & Christian liberty. They believed the stamp act was the mark of the beast, they thought the East India Company was a beast out of the sea, that mad king george was antichrist, why they were so concerned about the laws of the sea, maritime law. Why mad king george called it a "pastors revolt". Our historians now only teach very little about the founding generations & what they do teach is mostly wrong. It was our pastors who rallied the people & led militias. I'm so thankful they did not concede victory because it was inevitable.

Here's the problem with this, brother, Satan has been defeated. He was defeated 2,000 years ago at the cross of Christ. The keys of life and death have been taken from him. We already have victory over Satan through Christ and the promises of God are yes and Amen.

The Bible tells us that when the end times comes upon us, it will be like in the time of Noah, we will be marrying and eating and being joyful. No one is going to see it coming, Christ said that it would be so bad that even the Elect would fall if they were not His. Now those are extremely powerful words to say. The only way to fight against Satan is to fight against the tyranny of sin, not of globalization. The average person doesn't care about the genetically modified corn they are eating. They care about their suffering marriage, their drug addicted teenager, how to pay the mortgage. The people of this world are suffering. They need the solid gospel of Christ preached to them. They need to be healed from their diseased addled life from sin. The Gospel is the only Truth that should be spread. This is where the fight lies, not in trying to combat some evil government, for the Bible states that God appoints the wicked and the righteous ruler. Nothing that is happening is happening outside of His will or control. Everything is being done for His purposes and His glory.

I pray our pastors will rally again, do all they can to stand. I pray for a new great awakening putting the serpent back in his place so the Kingdom of Christ can reach more souls before the final time comes.

I agree, the Gospel message must be preached. People need to hear that Christ saves.
 
What is Truth? Rather Who is Truth? There is only One Truth in this world and His name is Christ the Lord.



Here's the problem with this, brother, Satan has been defeated. He was defeated 2,000 years ago at the cross of Christ. The keys of life and death have been taken from him. We already have victory over Satan through Christ and the promises of God are yes and Amen.

The Bible tells us that when the end times comes upon us, it will be like in the time of Noah, we will be marrying and eating and being joyful. No one is going to see it coming, Christ said that it would be so bad that even the Elect would fall if they were not His. Now those are extremely powerful words to say. The only way to fight against Satan is to fight against the tyranny of sin, not of globalization. The average person doesn't care about the genetically modified corn they are eating. They care about their suffering marriage, their drug addicted teenager, how to pay the mortgage. The people of this world are suffering. They need the solid gospel of Christ preached to them. They need to be healed from their diseased addled life from sin. The Gospel is the only Truth that should be spread. This is where the fight lies, not in trying to combat some evil government, for the Bible states that God appoints the wicked and the righteous ruler. Nothing that is happening is happening outside of His will or control. Everything is being done for His purposes and His glory.



I agree, the Gospel message must be preached. People need to hear that Christ saves.

I agree with the vast majority of what you said here.

But,

I'm concerned about genetically modified food, Bisphenol A, poisons in tap water, so much prozac flushing down toilets that it is affecting shrimp in the gulf. These are just some things that make people ill that we put in our bodies and when they get ill they blame God. When it is our fault due to "lack of knowledge".

I'm concerned when I see our freedom of speech being steadily stripped away. Christ & the martyrs were murdered for exercising this.

Its not like Christ did not get a little political at times, He got rather upset when the banksters aka the money-changers were ripping folks off in God's house. In reality the entire world is His house should we remain silent as the money-changers rip off the world through their Marxist money system? President Andrew Jackson had no love for the money-changers, he called them the same thing Jesus did, "vipers & thieves". He swore by God that "he would rout them out". He did, and freed the nation from debt bondage, the only President to do so.

We are told to obey the "higher powers" civil in Romans 13, Here in America the higher civil power is the Constitution for the United States. I want that upheld. It says our money is silver & gold, not these debt sureties we call federal reserve notes. We're told in proverbs not to be sureties for a debt. Now the people are enslaved by them. It forbids writ of attainer - death by edict, I want that upheld, not ignored so we can become a nation of assassins forsaking our laws, our covenant before God.

We're also told in Romans 13 that the government is "not to be a terror to good works" and when it does I expect all to speak out, the Declaration of Independence, still codified as our organic foundational law requires resisting tyranny as a "duty".

I am a peace-loving man. I go out of my way to harm none. I am a father & a grandfather, my passion is for my King Christ, then my family. When I look into the eyes of my little ones I am reminded of my duty as the hired man tending His sheep. My little ones, His sheep, my motivation to be active, educated, informed, & vocal.

While you would prefer Mr. Jones to become a Preacher, he is not. Mr. Jones has his own path to follow. But Mr. Jones gives a voice to Pastors like Chuck Baldwin, who too is on a mission, Preaching Christ, working in the Kingdom, informing the populous, sounding the alarm, being a vigilant watchman. If we had more Pastors like Brother Baldwin we'd probably have less need for men like Mr. Jones. Unfortunately we do not.
 
This is one of the more mild mannered videos. I can't post his other ones because they have too much cursing. If anyone is interested:

Title on YouTube: ALEX JONES MEGA RANT ( GOD IS GONNA DEAL WITH YOU ) *Warning: Curse Words*

How does that exemplify the Holy Spirit? How does cursing people to hell imitate Christ? Mr. Jones claims to not be able to sleep at night because he is worrying about all this stuff, that is a big warning sign that this is not of God. When we are walking in the will of God and in our calling He gives us peace during our trouble. What's worse is he is spreading this fear and hatred around.

James 3:1
My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

Just noticed your edit.

I don't mind posting the video.


I make no pretense. I'm a sinner, I admit it. When I sin, it just confirms how much I need Christ and that much more thankful I am for Him. I've known better men than me say far worse. Since I'm guilty I cast no stones. Mr. Jones is on a passionate rant against the wicked. Is God going to deal with them? Yup. Are the wicked cursed to hell if they don't repent? Yup.

What's the problem?
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Listen closely at the end of his rant when he says; "All of you who have had your way with innocent children, over & over again. You think your evil is invincible. You're not invincible! And God is going to deal with you and you are cursed to hell!"
 
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When we read Jesus preaching the first message that comes to mind is/are The Beatitudes

Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.


I fully understand a pastor has to preach what i will call the harsher side of the Word at a times. Our preachers should do their best to emulate Christ.

I know nothing of alex jones except form some connection to lizard people and i dont know which side of that fence he is on....

If he is cussing that is not Christ like.... i will listen some of his stuff so i can make a fair decision.
 
When we read Jesus preaching the first message that comes to mind is/are The Beatitudes

Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.


I fully understand a pastor has to preach what i will call the harsher side of the Word at a times. Our preachers should do their best to emulate Christ.

I know nothing of alex jones except form some connection to lizard people and i dont know which side of that fence he is on....

If he is cussing that is not Christ like.... i will listen some of his stuff so i can make a fair decision.

Hey Reba,

Thanks!

You'll find Alex Jones is definitely NOT into "lizard people".
That's the new-age theosophist occultist conspiracy theorist disciple of Alice Bailey - David Ickes.

You'll find that he is controversial.
That he is passionate.
You'll also find that just about everything he discusses he has some form of documentation, be it government documents, legislation, think-tank white papers, scientific papers, reports, books, legitimate news sources, etc.
You'll find that he is very traditonal(conservative like the founders), family oriented, pro Christ, & imperfect.

The video that got controversial in this thread is as harsh as you'll ever seen him. But, also in that video you should find he used a legitimate word that is the synonym of illegitimate, in the same context as Hebrews 12:8(KJV) regarding the wicked(evil). He also used the impolite modern term that means "sons of dogs", though very impolite, even harsh sounding, in my opinion is in reality no worse than telling the wicked their father is the devil or calling the wicked a viper and a thief. I'm curious of others opinions as well as yours.
 
I have been reading on Alex Jones. Read some of his stuff and stuff about him.. So far i dont like was i see. He shows me fear, hate, anger. If he is a Christian i would want no part of Christianity. Please note i said 'so far'



1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.


Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.


I read lots of accusations but see no proof. Some of what i read is just plain ol nuts.

Do i trust this government to be honest, NO I have not trusted them sense the Warren Commission report on the death of JFK. Do i see conspiracies under every rock NO. Are all the leaders, what we might call evil men/women NO .

I would suggest we get as excited about the Words of Christ as some do the hate peddlers.
 
Most Christians hopefully realize that David Icke's philosophies are completely mental and shouldn't be compared to Jones'. Icke admits to channeling spirits (demons) and these so-called reptilian people are obviously demons, too. It is just the new-agers way of discarding the bible and getting gullible people to believe in reptilian over-lords.
 
Is this a man of hate or an honest man?

[video=youtube;W-4C7myX0vg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-4C7myX0vg[/video]


I'm actually spending more time defending Alex Jones than I care.
I just have a strong sense of justice.
Why I posted the "controversial" video, because if we are going to judge him lets judge him on his own merits. Lets let his own words condemn or exonerate him. Not opinion of hearsay.
 
To me it appears as if Alex is trying to create conflict. It also looks like he is a fear monger. And, while there is some truth to what he says, I think there are some lies thrown in there to.


I think that Alex is just spouting a bunch of disinformation. And not just Alex Jones either, there's Glen Beck and any number of talking heads on the airwaves.


Also, just because someone uses the vernacular of a Christian, that does not make them a Christian person or my brother in Christ.
 
Re: Alex Jones

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Originally Posted by reba
When we read Jesus preaching the first message that comes to mind is/are The Beatitudes

Mat 5:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.


I fully understand a pastor has to preach what i will call the harsher side of the Word at a times. Our preachers should do their best to emulate Christ.

I know nothing of alex jones except form some connection to lizard people and i dont know which side of that fence he is on....

If he is cussing that is not Christ like.... i will listen some of his stuff so i can make a fair decision.



Hey Reba,

Thanks!

You'll find Alex Jones is definitely NOT into "lizard people".
That's the new-age theosophist occultist conspiracy theorist disciple of Alice Bailey - David Ickes.

You'll find that he is controversial.
That he is passionate.
You'll also find that just about everything he discusses he has some form of documentation, be it government documents, legislation, think-tank white papers, scientific papers, reports, books, legitimate news sources, etc.
You'll find that he is very traditonal(conservative like the founders), family oriented, pro Christ, & imperfect.

The video that got controversial in this thread is as harsh as you'll ever seen him. But, also in that video you should find he used a legitimate word that is the synonym of illegitimate, in the same context as Hebrews 12:8(KJV) regarding the wicked(evil). He also used the impolite modern term that means "sons of dogs", though very impolite, even harsh sounding, in my opinion is in reality no worse than telling the wicked their father is the devil or calling the wicked a viper and a thief. I'm curious of others opinions as well as yours.

The scriptures posted, Matt 5, you did not respond to your are excited about AJ. Your excitement of A J makes your views suspect. This man is not ,so far, any little bit Christ like.
 
Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.


1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.


I can condemn no one.
 
I realize the skepticism concerning Alex, but look at it from his perspective. He has a very dangerous job being a 'truther' and it would definitely be hard to always keep your composure under those circumstances. He declares that Jesus is lord; which is more than we can say for a lot of the people in the media these days.
 
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