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Anti-Semitism is wrong!

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So why is anti-Catholicism OK to some members here?

Why is it attacked on a daily basis on this forum?

Why don't the Catholics attack the Protestants on a personal level? After all, we disagree on matters of theology, church history and so on.


Anti-Catholicism: Its the last stand for bigots because racism and anti-Semitism are no longer popular.
 
ttg, I'm not sure what the root cause is, myself. I was once one of the anti-Catholics, to the point of personally ridiculing people, believing that history had been altered through a Catholic Church conspiracy, etc. But, even at my rudest and most hateful, the Holy Spirit was speaking to me the loudest in my heart. It was a hard shell to crack and it took me months to even admit to anyone the truth. I am even guilty of denying my belief to avoid ridicule among protestants. I am ashamed of that and of my prior attitude toward Catholics.

I know I grew up here in Texas, the south, in the Baptist/Methodist Bible Belt. I pretty much grew up with implicit distrust of Catholics, who I was taught were not Christians, were worshipping Mary, who couldn't talk straight to God (but had to use a priest), who had church on Saturdays (not really sure why I was taught that -- it just shows the core level of ignorance being taught to Evangelical/Fundamentalist children by their equally uninformed parents), who had strange worship styles, etc... After all, WE don't KNEEL in church, why do THEY?... Why do they use REAL WINE?! The drunkards! I was taught that Catholics get drunk in church and dance on the tables in their fellowship (parish) hall, and that they cuss and sin and generally are a disgrace to Christians and that they dont' believe in the Bible and that they kept the Bible away from people and wouldn't let anybody else read it, etc. etc. I was taught these lies and a good portion of people on this board were and a larger portion of Evangelical/Fundamentalists believe these things, because it was what they have been taught for several generations, as a way to discredit Catholics, a bigotry that goes so far back that no one in their family really remembers where it started and it is taught either explicitly or implicitly in most of the churches. Even the big mega non-denom church I went to for a while, who runs TV spots and has 15,000/week attendance... they run ads where they say things like "we just believe that church should be an experience that is fun for the whole family" or "we don't believe in religion" etc. It's implied, but it's clear, especially if you're tuned into it. For those that aren't tuned in to it, it passes by, but still enters the mind, the subconscious, the attitude.

I love my Christian brethren. I defend the Catholic Church, because I believe in it the way you believe in your particular theology. We both feel the other is wrong, but the name-calling and insults are pretty non-Christian if you ask me.

-Michael
 
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People are not really attacking the Catholic Thelogy, but trying to defend the truth of God's Word. The integrety of it. Catholic's are trying to defend the indefensible.


May God bless, golfjack
 
While it is true to say that I strongly disagree with Catholic theology I do not attack them. The reason I do not do that is because such an action is both pointless and unchristian. More importantly if I were to attack another for their beliefs that most assuredly would affect my witness. A big part of being a Christian is humbling ones self and putting their focus not on man, and their possible errors, but on the counsel and will of God. Correct errors that could lead others away from Christ, but ultimately fight for the glory of Godâ€â€not being right.

I must also admit that I do not like to debate, or more to the point argue with people. To many times in the past have I seen what arguments do to each person involved. It is my desire to show love and compassion to others; unfortunately when I engage in a debate or argument far too often does it become difficult to show that.

It is my desire that Christians, no matter what theology they follow (unless of course that theology does not follow the essential doctrines of the Christian faith), would work more to together in trying to win souls to Christâ€â€of course I realize ultimately it is God who “wins souls.â€Â

1 Corinthians 10:31-33 (NASB):
Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense either to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God; just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit but the profit of the many, so that they may be saved.
 
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golfjack said:
People are not really attacking the Catholic Thelogy, but trying to defend the truth of God's Word. The integrety of it. Catholic's are trying to defend the indefensible.

We believe fully in the truth of God's Word. We disagree on your interpretation of the truth of God's Word and on the 16th century doctrine of Sola Scriptura. You will never convert anyone's thoughts by attacking their beliefs. The best way to convert is to effectively and charitably explain your own beliefs. What "not to do" is to keep regurgitating false or incomplete notions of what you think someone else believes. It does not convince them, it merely insults them.

If you want to convert Catholics, your best bet is to become an expert on Catholicism (from Catholic sources, not protestant anti-Catholic books & websites), and to become an expert on explaining your own theology, with the ability to make a clear, concise point without cutting & pasting 10 pages off someone else's website or just posting a Bible verse and saying "See how wrong you are?!" without actually elaborating on a point... The way you approach it comes off as hateful and somewhat uninformed and trusting in anti-Catholic sources for your information (including what your pastor/mom/dad taught you that you never researched to see if it was true).

-Michael
 
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golfjack said:
People are not really attacking the Catholic Thelogy, but trying to defend the truth of God's Word. The integrety of it. Catholic's are trying to defend the indefensible.


May God bless, golfjack

By distorting it you are attacking it golfjack. You have been distorting it since you came on the board. So far what you have shown is indefensible is not the Catholic religion. For someone who was in it for 38 years you apparently didn't learn much. Please go to my poll regarding the discussion of beliefs of others in apologetics and voice your opinion.
 
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(unless of course that theology does not follow the essential doctrines of the Christian faith),

This is a very problematic statement. What is this list of essential Christian doctrines. Where is it and by what authority was it drawn up. Is it 1 doctrine, six, ten, twenty, or 100. I've seen lists of varying sizes. Don't you think we should have a correct list? Who has it? What is yours and what makes it correct? What if you are incorrect? What does it mean for you and the person you assume is a Christian?
 
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OK, let's use some scripture: 2 Cor. 5:17, Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. What is that verse saying to you?

Romans 8:2 the law of sin and death. What does spiritual death mean to you?

One more: Romans 8:14-16: What are these verses saying to you?


May God bless, golfjack
 
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I just want to know how you as a Catholic would interpret it as you say that you guys have the right interprettion on scripture. Then we can compare. Maybe you could answer my questions to the other thread about doctrine.



May God bless, golfjack
 
Golfjack,

You need to start your own threads and not try to derail the threads of others. Try to post relevant to the topic. It's in the rules. :roll:
 
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