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Mark 14

61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

63 Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?

64 Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.
 
Luke 23:21
But they cried, saying, Crucify him, crucify him.
 
Mathew 23:34
Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.


Luke 21
12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake


Mathew 10
23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
 
1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
 
wow, if those who deny the Father and the Son are the antichrist....this world would be filled with them. I was taught that Christ loved the Sinner's and died for their Sin's; while the antichrist hates the Sinner's and will live from their Sin's...which would make 1 man the opposite.
 
wow, if those who deny the Father and the Son are the antichrist....this world would be filled with them. I was taught that Christ loved the Sinner's and died for their Sin's; while the antichrist hates the Sinner's and will live from their Sin's...which would make 1 man the opposite.
You obviously were not taught this by any apostle.
Try to comprehend the verse.Think about it.
How many people do you know openly say the Messiah hasn't come and that Jesus is not the Messiah?

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
 
I will not claim to know everything, but I do know the Bible was written by men....and has been "revised" by men hundreds of times.....will you follow men, or will you follow your own heart? If a man says jump from a bridge to find truth, will you do this or seek truth for yourself.
 
I will not claim to know everything, but I do know the Bible was written by men....and has been "revised" by men hundreds of times.....will you follow men, or will you follow your own heart? If a man says jump from a bridge to find truth, will you do this or seek truth for yourself.
I've found truth.Ive been taught truth ever since I was anointed.
It's not hard to find them which deny Jesus is the Christ.Just visit a Judaism board and proclaim that Jesus is the Christ and watch what happens.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.
 
Part 1 Antichrist:
The Greek term has a twofold meaning. It refers to that which is anti, or opposed to, Christ. It may also refer to a false Christ, one in the place of Christ. All people, organizations, or groups that falsely claim to represent Christ or claim to be the Messiah or that oppose Christ and his disciples can properly be called antichrists.(1John 2:22)

The apostle John is the only Bible writer to use the word “antichrist.” In two of the letters bearing his name, the word appears five times, in both the singular and the plural. From these verses, we can see that the antichrist is a liar and a deceiver, bent on destroying a person’s relationship with Christ and with God. Accordingly, the apostle urged his fellow Christians: “Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.”(1 John 4:1)

Did Jesus too warn against deceivers, or false prophets, when he said: “They come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits [or, works] you will recognize them.” (Matthew 7:15, 16) So was Jesus warning his followers against the figurative antichrist?

In his prophecies on the conclusion of the system of things, Jesus Christ did warn his followers: “Look out that nobody misleads you; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. For false Christs (Gr., pseudokhristoi) and false prophets will arise and will give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones.” (Matthew 24:4, 5, 24) So isn't such wicked persons who falsely lay claim to the title and office of the Lord Jesus Christ included in the antikhristos (Greek for “antichrist”) mentioned five times by the apostle John. (1John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John 7)

The Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Scriptures uses the same Greek word khristos(Christ )more than 40 times, frequently as a title of anointed priests, kings, and prophets. Aaron the high priest was “the anointed one,” commissioned and “appointed in behalf of men over the things pertaining to God.” (Leviticus 4:3, 5, 16; 8:12; Hebrew 5:1) Expressing his judgment on the house of Eli, YHWH God promised to raise up a faithful priest who would walk before God’s anointed one (khri·stosʹ) for all time.(1 Samuel 2:35)

The kings shared this same honored title because of their relationship to YHWH God in their kingly office. So Samuel spoke of Saul as khristos at 1 Samuel 12:3, in the Greek Septuagint. “It is unthinkable, on my part,” exclaimed David, “to thrust my hand out against [Saul] the anointed (LXX, khriston) of YHWH!” ( 1 Samuel 26:11) And David would not allow his nephew Abishai to touch Saul. (1 Samuel 26:8, 9) David also had the Amalekite slain because that one said he had killed Saul “the anointed (LXX, khriston) of YHWH.” (2 Samuel 1:13-16) This title and commission to be king was also bestowed on David, and thereafter he spoke of himself as YHWH God's “anointed one (LXX, khristoi).” (1 Samuel 16:12, 13; 2 Samuel 22:51) King Zedekiah, who sat on the throne as an heir of David, was also called “the anointed one (khristos) of YHWH God.”(Lamentations 4:20)

There are other instances where the Greek Septuagint uses khristos prophetically. There are ten references to khristos in the book of Psalms, the one in Psalm 2:1, 2 being particularly noteworthy: Nations in tumult and kings of the earth massing together “against YHWH and against his anointed one.” The apostles quoted this prophecy and applied the title to the ‘holy servant Jesus, whom YHWH God had anointed.’ (Acts 4:24-27) A more unusual example is where the term is applied to the Persian king Cyrus. Before his birth, the prophecy of Isaiah (45:1-3) declared: “This is what YHWH has said to his anointed one (LXX, khristoi), to Cyrus, whose right hand I have taken hold of.” Cyrus was never literally anointed with holy oil as were the kings of Israel, but as in other instances in the Bible, the expression “anointed one” is a titled form of address given to him because of his commission and appointment from God.

So who is the Antichrist?

The antichrist is not merely one individual person or entity, for the Bible says that there are “many antichrists.” (1 John 2:18) Rather, the term “antichrist,” which comes from a Greek word meaning “against (or instead of) Christ,” refers to anyone who does the following:

(1)Denies that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah) or denies that he is the Son of God. (1 John 2:22)

(2)Opposes the Christ, God’s Anointed One.(Psalm 2:1, 2; Luke 11:23)

(3)Pretends to be the Christ.(Matthew 24:24)

(4)Persecutes the followers of Christ, since Jesus views what is done to them as being done to him.(Acts 9:5)

(5)Falsely claims to be a Christian while practicing lawlessness or deception.(Matthew 7:22, 23; 2 Corinthians 11:13)

Besides speaking of individuals who take such actions as being antichrists, the Bible also refers to them collectively as “the antichrist.” (2 John 7) The antichrist first appeared in the time of the apostles and has been active ever since. Bible prophecy foretold just such a development.(1 John 4:3)

How do we identify Antichrists?

(1)They promote false ideas related to Jesus. (Matthew 24:9, 11) For example, those who teach that Jesus is Almighty God actually oppose the teachings of Jesus, like at John 14:28; and John 20:17.

(2)Antichrists reject what Jesus said about how God’s Kingdom operates. For instance, some religious leaders say that Christ works through human governments. Yet, this teaching contradicts Jesus, who said: “My Kingdom is no part of this world.”(John 18:36)

(3)They say that Jesus is their Lord, but they do not obey his commands, including the one to preach the good news of the Kingdom.(Matthew 28:19, 20; Luke 6:46; Acts 10:42)
 
Part 2 Antichrist

There has been much effort in the past to identify “the antichrist” with an individual, such as Pompey, Nero, or Muhammad (this latter person being suggested by Pope Innocent III in 1213 C.E.), or with a specific organization, as in the Protestant view of “the antichrist” as applying to the papacy. However, John’s inspired statements show the term to be broad in its application, embracing all those who deny that “Jesus is the Christ,” and who deny that Jesus is the Son of God who came “in the flesh.”(1John 2:22; 4:2, 3; 2John 7, John 8:42, 48, 49; 9:22)

Denial of Jesus as the Christ and as the Son of God of necessity embraces the denial of any or all of the Scriptural teachings concerning him: his origin, his place in God’s arrangement, his fulfillment of the prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures as the promised Messiah, his ministry and teachings and prophecies, as well as any opposition to or efforts to replace him in his position as God’s appointed High Priest and King. This is evident from other texts, which, while not using the term “antichrist,” express essentially the same idea. Jesus stated: “He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.” (Luke 11:23) 2 John 7 shows that such ones might act as deceivers, and so the “antichrist” would include those who are “false Christs” and “false prophets,” as well as those who perform powerful works in Jesus’ name and yet are classed by him as “workers of lawlessness.”(Matthew 24:24; 7:15, 22, 23)

In view of Jesus’ rule that what is done to his true followers is done to him (Matthew 25:40, 45; Acts 9:5), the term must include those who persecute such ones, which means it would include the symbolic “Babylon the Great.”(⁠Luke 21:12; Revelation 17:5, 6)

John specifically mentions apostates as among those of the antichrist by referring to those who “went out from us,” abandoning the Christian congregation. (1John 2:18, 19) It therefore includes “the man of lawlessness” or “son of destruction” described by Paul, as well as the “false teachers” Peter denounces for forming destructive sects and who “disown even the owner that bought them.”(2 Thessalonians 2:3-5; 2Peter 2:1)

Kingdoms, nations, and organizations are similarly shown to be part of the antichrist in the symbolic description at Revelation 17:8-15; 19:19-21; Psalm 2:1, 2)
 
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Scripture is clear, precise and undeniable who the antichrist is; its the son of perdition-the dragon of old there is only one. The one that caused 1/3rd of GODS children to follow him in 1st age. The whole reason of this flesh age to decide once and for all who you will love Satan or GOD.
No if, ands, or buts it is Satan kicked out of heaven on 5th trump, making his presence known on the 6th trump. There is only one in 6th seal, 6th trump, 6th vial (666)=great dragon and people best get into the WORD and understand for he and the fallen are coming back and if you don't have the full armor of GOD on with CHRIST as your shield you cant stand against them, for they are coming after you self professed Christians. They already have the rest of the world.
They cant harm a hair on the head of the Elect but they will come after your family, friends and wear you down. So many confused say they want to be the first one taken where they will just fly away: Eze 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Those that teach falsely that they want to be the 1st taking will be the 1st ones that will be running to the antichrist. 1st ones taking is not by rapturing up the church but people running to the antichrist thinking it is CHRIST coming to fly them away! 1st words out of the deceiver’s mouth will be “I have come to fly you away, 1st bow and worship your god”; and they run to him with open arms. Giving up their loved ones to death himself.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

great Gr.- apostasy-where Satan deceives many, so many, by rapture doctrine for one where they will be so ashamed they want mountains to fall on them when they come to full knowledge.

apostasy is when they instantly give up their professed religion and fallow the son of perdition(one sentenced to die, there’s only 1) many of them are the salt of the earth until the real test then they fold because of what they have been taught.
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

I say it is not possible!
for the Elect stand waiting, willing and able; Greek it says he comes instead of CHRIST before true CHRIST; Showing and acting like Christ with miracles and super natural wanders, so amazing he will appear to the unlearned. Snapping his fingers and producing lightning down from the sky. Beautiful in appearance; GOD said HE made Lucifer (morning star) the full package not wanting for anything. Looking and saying he is the messiah to all, every religion, race, and creed just bow and accept him.
People go insane over stars, rock stars; they have nothing on this guy and the fallen; perfect being's with 100% brain power where Satan is a Biblical scholar that is so arrogant of his wisdom that he tempted the WORD HIMSELF with scripture. Prepare brothers and sisters for all prophecy WILL be fulfilled in the "Generation of the fig tree" not maybe, will, it is 76 years old and getting a bit old, this is the generation, the last. GOD did not choose Peter, Paul or Mary. Moses, any of great people of Biblical past to take on the head of the snake in this final battle of the flesh, HE chose us! the greatest destiny one can have that even the prophets wanted to be part of.
 
Well I personally am still a bit confused about exactly what persona and role this man will adopt and step into. Because even though Daniel 11:36 and
2Thess. 2:4 both fit that definition as one who opposes and exalts himself against God, there is still that idea of him being a Messiah figure.

But I've always heard that he would come in as a political world leader and only institute the Mark of the Beast in the middle of the tribulation. But if that's the case then what's the need for a pre-trib rapture?

Or if he is promoting world peace and unity as a Messiah for all religions and anyone who will take that Mark, then how and/or why would he need to become a murderer and jeopardize or ruin his reputation as a peace maker?

Just some questions I'm still not sure about, but either way I do not believe in a rapture of any kind nor do I believe he will be playing Jesus in a literal sense but only as in place of, but with the same authority. Because I cannot document it in God's word where he will claim to be THE Messiah.
 
And something I left out was the translation of the word Antichrist from Strongs Concordance- Greek entry #500, "one who puts himself in the place of, or an enemy(opponent) of the Messiah."

So if you said he would claim to be Messiah but was opposed to Him at the same time, it really wouldn't make a lot of sense. Also as far as other religions go, the major ones have there own version of a coming Messiah figure. So if he will be exalting himself above all other gods/religious figures, then doesn't seem like that would go over to well with them?!

Finally if he did in fact literally come as Jesus incarnate to prepare all believers to get ready for some rapture event(which btw has always been an any moment/wink of an eye occurrence) then that's fine for believers...but what about the rest of the world who never believed, or was and still 110% committed to there own belief system??
Just saying/asking...
 
Thats a lot to pack in a social site, but answer some : The 1st beast of Revelations is a world system set up by man and receives a deadly wound, it is a political beast system we are in now; when Satan comes and heals the deadly wound of 1st beast a deadly wound given to 1 of the heads of 1 world system. When Michael kicks him out of heaven and here de-jure on earth he takes over the world system set up by man and 2nd beast system is religious. He comes in copying everything CHRIST 2nd coming does. He stands on top of Mt Olive just as CHRIST does, difference when true CHRIST comes the mount splits into, very 1st clue of antichrist will be mount doesn't split into, 2nd clue we are still in flesh bodies. When he comes he will seemingly snap his fingers and lightning appears in the sight of man, Satan is wise and here during the first 2 1/2 months here secretly (end of 5th trump). What he is during the 1st half secretly is gathering the nations together and all their wealth and treasures and their loyalty where when he makes his presence known in 2nd half of 5 month reign he has all he needs where no one will be able to buy, sell, trade without the mark of the beast.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Satan is very cunning the most cunning of all created and wise, knows scripture better than any man and why we are to rebuke him and not argue with him. He is supernatural and 100% use of brain, The smartest of man only uses 10%.
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

He tempted CHRIST HIMSELF with scripture at HIS weakest point and even offered him all kingdoms HE chooses, thing is he twists scripture just enough to make it untrue. CHRIST tells us when he speaketh he speakeths lies for he is the father of lies. Take a lesson from Job how Satan works and comes after your family, friends means of provisions, to make you curse GOD and follow him. When he comes claiming to be the MESSIAH he comes in peaceably and prosperously promising you a chicken in every pot, paying off your bills and healing your ails and make no bones it is his to give kingdoms but it is only his for 5 months.
He will not be coming killing or throwing people in jail, he comes in peaceably; if he killed everyone, throwing them in prisons and cursing GOD openly he would give his hand away.
How hard would it be for those who have no understanding that when he comes? say your child becomes desperately ill and it appears the antichrist is the only one that can save him/her, you bring in front of him and the parent is asked "do you believe I am the MESSIAH and can heal your child? What parent would do anything to save a child, the parents answer is yes -done deal you took the mark!
Thing is Heaven is rolled up like a scroll and no one dies in Satan's 5 month reign
, how many Christians even know scripture well enough to even know the simplicity of scripture? All the souls that are to be born from above are, and all that are to die a flesh life have already before the 5 months except the 2 witness; when they die, exactly 3 1/2 days later true CHRIST descends at very same instant all flesh is done away with and all revert to their true spiritual bodies. All that are here when that happens will be here for 1k year of righteous rule and truth, without the hangups of the flesh or deceptions of Satan who for his punishment before he dies is 1k years in the pit.

Many ask why a loving GOD would allow Satan to do this, why not just kill Satan. Because HE is a loving GOD HE has to; if HE killed Satan HE would also have to kill 1 out of every 3 of HIS children for 1/3rd followed Lucifer in the 1st age and another 1/3rd just sat on the fence and waited to see which way the wind blew. Instead of GOD destroying 1/3rd of HIS children HE gives them a chance once in for all to choose who they love GOD or Satan, the whole reason for this flesh age.

GOD created us all with free will, even Satan. Satan was just under the GOD head and was never to be born of woman(Cherubim that covereth). He worked his way to that position, GOD doesn’t give anyone anything they don’t deserve good or bad. But that was not good enough because of his self pride his hatred for GOD grew to a point thinking he could be like a god. This is how arrogant he is, thinking the created could become the creator.

Satan is coming after those who call themselves Christian no need to go after the rest of the world he already has them. Sadly because what most Christians have been taught Satan right off the bat will have half of them running to him they thinking it is CHRIST coming to fly them away.
(Parable of 10 virgins)- all Christians, good salt of the earth people who sat in pews their whole life but never were taught the truth; when the time came and counted the most they gave up their professed religion and no longer a chased virgin for they fall for the fake, and when they come to full knowledge after 7k elect speak in synagogues of Satan and true MESSIAH descends they realize they been had and so ashamed to face HIM they want mountains to fall on them, men seek death but cant find it for death is swallowed up.
 
Well....THAT is actually quite a lot to take in on any social media site!?! But I'm pretty certain where you got it from and who was for the most part a very good Bible teacher, but won't mention him by name as he would have never wanted such recognition anyway.

But at the same time, there are actually quite a few ASSumptions there and you probably have heard the old saying about that, hence those first three letters in the word?? But I do see basically where you are coming from and what the Antichrist will represent for the most part.

And he will of course be able to call fire/lightning down from heaven, but still says nothing about him snapping his fingers. And he may be able to use 100% of his brain and claim to be "wiser than Daniel"(Ezekiel 28:3) but he is and will always be utterly DUMB enough to not be phased or even in denial about his ultimate fate!?
And I could go on about everything else he might do that is not specifically documented in God's word. And maybe there actually are/were some special people with some inside knowledge that we should just take there own word for...I really cant say for sure one way or another??

All I do know is what the Bible does specifically say, and would really just rather stick with that for now, until PROVEN otherwise, period.
 
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Not sure who you think I got from (might have a hint who you think it might be) but that aside I have studied and found for myself where GOD gives sight to those who seek it. GOD is not trying to hide anything and wants all to come to full knowledge of truth. I have never found anything of this life that GOD has not wrote about. CHRIST said "I have told you all things". HE also said "Truth will set you free" never a truer statement ever. Every thing I said or everything I have ever wrote on here can always be backed up by scripture or I dont write it knowing the penalty. Thing is I come to see peoples on such sites always twist and turns scriptures inside out, not talking of you. But this like my 3rd Christian site, I have come to realize why GOD sometimes blind people so there soul can be saved for truly many are blinded either by GOD with simplicity of scripture while I believe others intentionally blind themselves and others for own purposes.
Again not talking of you or anyone in particular, to my knowledge I haven't seen where you have done this I am speaking in general of other and all sites. You say Assumptions? where and what assumptions? I have always been very careful what to say never wanting to lead anyone astray or from the WORD of GOD; All can be backed up by scripture but such a short platform most people read over when it is long.
 
If you referring to the political beast as an assumption; I dont believe that is an assumption for scripture tells us it is of 10 flesh kings that take it over -thats political. When Spurious messiah comes hes religious again no assumption for he comes instead of real Messiah after healing the deadly wound of 1st beast.
 
What I meant by assumptions had more to do with Antichrist but also how some people read more into scripture than is really there. And if you do that enough times then you could be in danger of violating Revelation 22:19.
But if you have studied for yourself and confident in what you believe then I'm not one to judge.

But when you say Antichrist will come instead of Christ that almost sounds like he will be saying you don't need Jesus when you've got me. Because when you are there in place of someone you are only representing them, not pretending to be that person incarnate. Because if that were the case then how would he be able to get away with speaking against God the Father which obviously Jesus would NEVER do!

And how is he going to get unbelievers such as Atheists to repent and accept Him? Even Jesus said to the rich man in hell that his brothers would not believe even if one were to rise from the dead and warn them. I feel that neither will most sinners during that time, but they will believe in Antichrist as a man who embraces and accepts all faiths and belief systems.

But it's just how I'm seeing it and all one can do is study the word as best as they are able and come to there own conclusions. Bottom line is to recognize the false Messiah when he arrives and not be taken in by his miracles and message of peace, love, and prosperity for ALL who worship him. But as obvious and straightforward as that sounds, somehow even many believers will be taken in by the LIES which will seem like the Gospel truth.
 
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