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Are there modern day prophets?

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Dave Slayer

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Are there modern day prophets? Is anyone here a prophet?
 
I think we better qualify what a real prophet is. If it doesn't come true. Then God didn't give it. No way around that one. Lot's of people would like to be though. I don't really care myself. If I actually did have some special Spiritual gift...I think I'd rather not know about it. God could just let it happen. Too much room for being a novice (proud) otherwise.
There are a lot of would be's out there though. Any Spiritual gift should be to help others...not to bring glory to ourselves.
 
I'm a Baptist who currently attends a soul-wining Assembly of God church, and I've pointed something out more than once. If a prophet's prophecy doesn't come true, we're not to listen to him anymore.

Their "prophets" have a solid track record of wrong predictions, but they still claim to be prophets. On the other hand, most charismatics don't listen to them. The more successful prophets concentrate on vague predictions, such "God will do a great work this year," and later point to a revival that broke out in another country as proof that they are prophets.
 
justvisiting said:
Adullam said:
Are there modern day pastors?
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Certainly, but pastors are allowed to make mistakes...prophets are not.
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Great point. Prophets had to get it right 100% of the time. In the Old Testament, false prophets were put to death.
 
justvisiting said:
Adullam said:
Are there modern day pastors?
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Certainly, but pastors are allowed to make mistakes...prophets are not.
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This is a curious stance. What happened to grace? Are we to kill any attempt at holiness in others? Who or what motivates this type of attitude?

If a brother is called to be a prophet.....and is not yet mature...does he automatically deserve your rejection?
 
Dave Slayer said:
Are there modern day prophets? Is anyone here a prophet?
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  • Ephesians 4:11 And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers.


What is the difference in a prophet and a teacher?

A teacher teaches what they have been taught, have experienced, what is written, what is known in order to instruct students. A prophet teaches too....but teaches what the Holy Spirit has revealed. A prophet is Divinely inspired. Does that mean that today they must tell of a future event? I don't think so. Jesus said....

  • Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

    Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

To me, a prophet is a Divinely inspired teacher of His Word, of the spirit of the Word. The teacher teaches the letter and a prophet teaches the spirit.

  • 2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.



Editing to add....I just noticed another verse from Jesus on this subject:

Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, "Thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
 
Adullam said:
justvisiting said:
Adullam said:
Are there modern day pastors?
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Certainly, but pastors are allowed to make mistakes...prophets are not.
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This is a curious stance. What happened to grace? Are we to kill any attempt at holiness in others? Who or what motivates this type of attitude?

If a brother is called to be a prophet.....and is not yet mature...does he automatically deserve your rejection?
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Visiting is just holding with Scripture. If a prophet speaks a prophecy that does not come true he is not to be listened to. This was the OT test for a false prophet.
 
Folks, I've explained this to my Godly brethren in the Assembly of God church, just as it has been explained here.

A prophet is not allowed to make a mistake. Period.

If God is powerful enough to call a young Christian to be a prophet, then God is powerful enough to keep him from making a mistake.
 
So I gather that many here are advocates of sinless perfection? You believe a man can walk and never sin...or else in all honesty you must deny the existence of prophets in all of history.
 
No, I think you are misunderstanding. The prophets were prone to sin, just as anyone else.

But, their prophecies had to be 100% correct. To fail in this was death. This is what the Lord commanded and expected. They spoke for God. If they said something that was untrue, then it would be perceived that God was a liar. If they prophesied something that was incorrect, then obviously the Spirit of God was not in them.

Any prophet who prophecies incorrectly, even once, is a false prophet. We don't stone them now, of course, (not living under Hebrew Civil Law) but they are to be rejected as a prophet.
 
handy said:
No, I think you are misunderstanding. The prophets were prone to sin, just as anyone else.

But, their prophecies had to be 100% correct. To fail in this was death. This is what the Lord commanded and expected. They spoke for God. If they said something that was untrue, then it would be perceived that God was a liar. If they prophesied something that was incorrect, then obviously the Spirit of God was not in them.

Any prophet who prophecies incorrectly, even once, is a false prophet. We don't stone them now, of course, (not living under Hebrew Civil Law) but they are to be rejected as a prophet.
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You are saying that a prophet is perfect in word but not in deed? Where does reasoning like that come from?

2 For we all stumble in many ways. If anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to bridle the whole body as well.

Will you argue against this?
 
its actually modern day prophets that are allowed to prophecy in part. Meaning their prophesies are not THE WORD OF GOD ! . The Bible tells us they prophecy in part.1Co 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
 
Folks, I admit that my observations are limited to one Assemblies of God district in Mexico, but here goes:

We have people down here who have announced that they are prophets. They will tell people what to do, expose their sins, and amaze the crowd with their knowledge. Unfortunately, most of them make a mistake somewhere along the line. Fortunately, even the Assemblies of God people have learned to ignore them. Their correct prophecies are vaguely worded ("God is displeased because you are not reading the Bible enough!"), and when they get specific, they make mistakes.

They are not a reliable source of spiritual guidance. Being a prophet is not something to be taken on lightly. One mistake, and you're done. Period.
 
Vince said:
Folks, I admit that my observations are limited to one Assemblies of God district in Mexico, but here goes:

We have people down here who have announced that they are prophets. They will tell people what to do, expose their sins, and amaze the crowd with their knowledge. Unfortunately, most of them make a mistake somewhere along the line. Fortunately, even the Assemblies of God people have learned to ignore them. Their correct prophecies are vaguely worded ("God is displeased because you are not reading the Bible enough!"), and when they get specific, they make mistakes.

They are not a reliable source of spiritual guidance. Being a prophet is not something to be taken on lightly. One mistake, and you're done. Period.
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Take heed that no man deceive you. [Matthew 24:4]
 
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