AVBunyan Has Had Enough – I’m Out

[Heidi]

You know, Thessalonian, you must not read my posts because all I talk about is "love is the fulfillment of the law" In fact, I talk about love more than anything else.[quote:7da3d]

Can't say as I've read them all. I do read the ones top to bottom that are to me. I just did a search and it seems you never posted it in response to me. I commend you for saying it because I agree with it. Glad we have it cleared up and I apologize for any offense if I misrepresented you.

[quote:7da3d]But those who think that works save, talk about works more than anything else, including love. You do not realize that loving God or our neighbor is not a work. It is response from the Spirit. But since you're adept at twisting people's words, then I don't view your posts as credible. Therefore, since you do not read my posts, or if you do, you lie about them, then you have no valid comments about them.

Loving others and charity are in fact a work according to scripture.

2Cor.8
[7] Now as you excel in everything -- in faith, in utterance, in knowledge, in all earnestness, and in your love for us -- see that you excel in this [quote:7da3d]gracious work also

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Gal.5
[6] For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith working through love.

We have a difference in vocabulary it seems that makes it hard for us to understand one another.
There are works of the law and there are works of love. The later has value in the new covenant. It did in the old as well to tell the truth. God says I have had enough of your sacrifice, care for the widow and the orphan in Is 1.

If you ask to be rescued from a burning fire and finally someone rescues you, how would you feel? If you are not thankful, then how could you understand exactly what your rescuer did for you? :o

Is your point that out of love you would do something nice? Most certainly our good works must be motivated by love of God. From that flows love of neighbor.

Do you know what Jesus means when he says; "For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks"? Do you also know what Paul means by "love is the fulfillment of the law"? It doesn't appear so. Paul said that if we have not love then everything we do, including what we consider good works are meaningless. Do you agree with him?

My suggestion is that you knock off the condescention about your supposedly superior knowledge of scripture and assumed ignorance on my part. If you have read my posts you should know by now I agree with him.

If so, then again, for the umpteenth time, all we need is love. And Paul agrees with that which is why he said; "The law can be summed up in one word; love."

I agree.[/quote:7da3d][/quote:7da3d][/quote:7da3d]

Again, do you not think you are right? Or do you have your opinions because you think they are wrong? :o If so, then why do you pass them along? If not, then you are doing the very thing you accuse me of, my friend. ;-)

 

[thessalonian]

Again, do you not think you are right? Or do you have your opinions because you think they are wrong? If so, then why do you pass them along? If not, then you are doing the very thing you accuse me of, my friend.
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No, thinking you are right is one thing. We all do that. But when you need to resort to "do you know what this means" and "you better read this book" (which I admittely engaged in a bit in tit for tat fashion last night), that is condsension. I assume you have read the scriptures and I assume that you have come by your beliefs honestly, using the intelligence God has given you. God is your judge for not having the correct traditions that go with them but instead applying the false ones you have been taught. You can't help but superimpose them over scripture as you do. So no in truth I do not think I have been condescending to you. I am quite direct at times. But that's a different matter.

 

[Vic C.]

AVBunyan Has Had Enough – I’m Out

Case closed... along with this thread, which wasn't intended to be a debate. As usual, it turned into yet another argument.

Another weak link... Good bye! 8-)