[_ Old Earth _] Be an EYE WITNESS to intelligent Design - here

[BobRyan]

See an example of ID -- eye witness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSasTS-n ... re=related


Scientists admit seeing ID here - eye witness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxZ3bhQpz5s


Romans 1 says that even "barbarians" can see "the invisible attributes of God -- clearly SEEN IN the things that have been made".

With the advancements in science to observe at the micro-and-nano level we get the benefit of the presentation and arguments in the first two links above.

What say you?

Is that a good thing -- or just more science to be ignored?

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

the key here is that "actual science" (some like to use the word "literal" when they mean "actual") brings us the information about the microbiology of the cell seen in the videos - however "telling stories about how one thing came from another -- stories easy enough to make up but they are not science" (Colin Patterson) is brought to us by the story telling of Darwinism.

Why then would any Christian suppose that "science" (as in actual science -- not junk science) should ever be referenced as IF it is "against the Christian"? It is impossible!!

Bob

 

[Rick W]

Science never was against Christianity but rather the conclusions drawn by the data produced by the science.
Science of and in itself does not produce conclusions. That's the realm of human assumption to come to any conclusion. In any debate/study/research an assumption must first be made, the evidence gathered to support the initial assumption and a conclusion made from the data presented.

Science is not an entity of itself but rather a tool of logic within the minds of men. Whether the logic is sound or not depends largely on the success of applying said logic in the past and with consideration to what is known. For example, consider the experiment proving the earth is flat using a sphere and a bowl of water. The sphere is held while the bowl of water is poured onto it. The water runs off the globe and onto the floor. This may have seemed quite logical in view of the fact that the mechanics of gravity were unknown. Was the experiment scientific? In light of no workable knowledge of gravity then yes, it was scientific and quite logical. Here again, science did not produce the conclusion.

Science itself is not against God or religion. Science is the God-given gift to man that he may stand in ever-increasing awe of His glory and power. And of course for the betterment of mankind. But knowledge is at the command of man's sinful nature in that it can be used not only for good but for evil. And it can be used to glorify the Father or reject His glory and power. Science produces the data, it's up to us what we do with the data produced and up to us what conclusions are drawn.