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Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

gordon777

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Is it impossible to love our enemies, doing good to those who hate us, praying for those who use you, to be the children of God who does good to the evil and to the good/just and unjust ? ( there is a resurrection of both the just and the unjust, and we see Apostle Paul therefore always exercised himself in this way Jesus had told us, to always have a conscience void of offence toward God and toward man. Luke 14:14. Acts 24;15-16.)



We are told of the other example, of people who only love those who love them, those who salute their brothers only, and it is not told something we cannot do, it is told THEREFORE, to be perfect as our Father. ( who we are to believe in doing those good ways to believe in and do/ not teach we cant do them.)



Jesus also testified it is impossible with ,men, but with God all things are possible. ( the disciples did forsake all to follow Christ, which others do not, as it is impossible for those who do not believe all things are possible with God.. Matthew 19:27-30.)



The blind cannot lead the blind, we are to be seeing for anyone else to follow us. We cannot be above our Master ( Christ) but everyone that is perfect shall be as Him. ( in light to lead in the light.)



We are to leave all to follow Christ, and that is as told in Matthew 19:27-30, every one that has forsaken houses, or brothers, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for His name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
Luke 14:16-33 is then understood to be how we love Christ the most, and not our families and our lives instead. Bearing our cross to follow Christ. In the context/understanding of forsaking all to be His disciple, we are to be the useful salt with good savour, ( purged, then, good for the Masters use, fit for every good purpose. 2 Timothy 2:21.) otherwise we are good for nothing and are to be cast out.

Mark 9:47-50 teaches the same, if our eye offends us, to pluck it out: it is better for us to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt. Salt is good: but if the salt has lost his saltness, wherewith will you season it? ( the salt that is not purged, is not fit for the Masters us in every good work.)

Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.


Matthew 10:36-39 confirms the very same, we cannot love those of our household more than Christ, as that is then not understanding they become our enemies, we are to be worthy of Christ by taking our cross and following after Him, to not find our life, with our families, but to lose our life, for the sake of Christ, to find it again. This is trust in the Lord Jesus Christ,and not all our trust in this world instead.






Matthew 19:26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.



Luke 14:14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.


Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void to offence toward God, and toward men.






Luke 6:39 39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.




2 Timothy 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.
34 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned?
35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
49 For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
50 Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his saltness, wherewith will ye season it? Have salt in yourselves, and have peace one with another.

Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.




It is through the sacrifice of Jesus for us, that we can believe He showed us how to love, so we can begin to do what he taught, which was the hidden love of heaven, and confirmed on earth by Jesus' sacrifice for us.
 
Anyone notice, they talk all day every day, and for what ?

One moment someone can be here and there is nothing worthwhile to say any more.
 
What wisdom or right words, have people who argue for years non stop every day on forums ?

Answer is apparent, it is none.
 
Do the talkers slow down, to hear, or go so fast ( in opinion) that they could not possibly know what they are talking about ?
 
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