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Bible Study Bible Study-19 (Speaking of Tongues)

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Bible Study-19 (Speaking of Tongues)

After two years in 53-57AD after the Books of Thessalonians we find God once again sowing the seed of his Gospel unto Paul in the Book of Galatians, bringing him within the word of God. With God remembering his promise to Abraham, God once again confirmed this promise through Paul, in this same Gospel of Galatians. 3:14-“That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of his Spirit through faith.â€Â
3:17-“And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of mine effect.â€Â

3:18-“For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.â€Â
3:19-“Therefore them serveth the law? It was added because of transgression, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.â€Â

This tongue that they spoke on the day of Pentecost, it was not known as an unknown tongue, but a tongue that everyone on earth would and could understand. This was a tongue or something that had not happened here on earth, for over many several thousands of years. For here on earth only then if anyone man spoke, everyone on earth would and could understand. This goes all the way backs to the building of the tower of Babel; this is when God was the only one that did the separation of man.
For God then turned the world’s only language into many different languages, here God divided the culture of man over all the earth. The tongue that was then to became the gift from the Holy Ghost; it was something very different. It was only a tongue to be spoken unto God, a tongue that even the interpreters had to get their own interpretation from the will of God.

On the day of Pentecost, here the Spirit represented the Holy Ghost it’s own-self. This was the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of the Father and the Son in one, the Spirits that was representing a great Godhead as it came down upon the earth as a mighty wind. This Spirit of the Holy Ghost was not one of the Godhead’s gifts; it was a Spirit that dwells only within the Godhead its own self now coming to earth from Christ to act as Christ’s teacher.
This other Spirit was known as another entire different spirit, which was known only as being the unknown tongue to man, or tongue of fire here on earth. The Holy Ghost was really the Spirit of Truth; this was the one and only Comforter, which had came from within the Godhead. Which were speaking and interpreting the one and only tongue, so that once again everyone on earth could understand – as was spoken on the day of Pentecost.

Studying and going into the Book of First Corinthians in 55-56AD, we find Paul to first mention tongues for the first time in the New Testament after the Book of Acts, but were very crucial through out this whole book trying to also explain these gifts. I was very surprise to find that at this very time, Paul would or should have been trying to bring up the gifts of the Holy Ghost for the first time. This was then only twenty-five to twenty six years after the day of Pentecost in 30.AD
Paul was even back then was becoming very dissatisfied, with how the people then had already started to misuse these many gifts. For then they had already then started to becoming corrupted, from being within the missed use and sinful hands of man, for it had only then been twenty-five critical years – as also described within this same Book of First Corinthians.

Studying the Spiritual Gifts, as Paul first named them within the Book of First Corinthians in the year of 55-56AD. This was twenty-five years after the day of Pentecost, 1st-apostles, 2nd-prophets, 3rd-teachers, 4th-miracles, 5th-gift of healing, 6th-helps of government, 7th-wisdom, 8th-faith, 9th-knowledge, 10th-dicerning of spirits, 11th-tongues, 12th-interpretation of tongues.
In the Book of First Corinthians we find for the first time the numbering of the Spiritual Gifts, 12:8-“For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;â€Â

12:9-“To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gift of healing by the same Spirit:â€Â
12:10-“To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kind of tongues; to another the interpretation:â€Â
12:28-“And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gift of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.â€Â

But we also find Paul to have much more to say about this in the same Book of First Corinthians, 14:1-“Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.â€Â
14:2-“For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.â€Â
14:3-“But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.â€Â
14:4-“He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.â€Â

14:18-“I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:â€Â
14:19-“Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my the voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.ââ‚
14:22-“Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.â€Â

Thanks and God Bless You
Herbert
 
Are we to believe, then, that the so-called "tongues" as practiced by present-day Pentecostals are unscriptural?
 
Thank you Sputruik Boy

Then at this very same short time many had also begun to misuse these gifts of tongues, we don’t only find Paul only speaking against them, for here we find James speaking out very sharply only thirty-two years after the day of Pentecost, as we find in the year of 62AD in the Book of James. 3:2-“For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.â€Â
3:3-“Behold, we put bits in the horse’s mouth, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.â€Â
3:4-“Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce wind, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.â€Â

3:5-“Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a fire kindleth!â€Â
3:6-“And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue is among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.â€Â
3:7-“For every kind of beast, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:â€Â
3:8-“But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.â€Â

We have many that believe that if man do not speak in tongues then they are not saved, here we find James is telling us that the most evil thing about us that we cannot control is our tongue. In many of our churches of today we find ourselves making an idol, or image unto our use of tongues, which even back then at this time, they were already becoming corrupted. This was even then a tongue in which man could find no control, tongues that many times we find to become lose at both ends.
Here we find God through James criticizing our tongues very sharply, when we even now hold tongues up with the highest and of the greatest honor – as now becoming very sacred. After only a few years after being named, as being a gift of the Holy Ghost, then being in the hands and corruption of man for only a few years. We find James and also Paul both many times named them as then becoming corrupted, and miss used within the hands of man – and their evil ways.

Thank you and God Bless
Herbert
 
I see tongues as a spiritual gift - as any other spiritual gift that God has given for the building and edification of His church.

It is not a sign that one is 'saved.'
 
To Mutzrein

I'm sorry if I miss understood the use of tongues, for I have heard it used in this manner so many times. I guess I have been in too many Holiness Churches, or watching too much television.

Thank you and God Bless
Herbert
 
Gcront said:
To Mutzrein

I'm sorry if I miss understood the use of tongues, for I have heard it used in this manner so many times. I guess I have been in too many Holiness Churches, or watching too much television.

Thank you and God Bless
Herbert

No problem. If I have helped to bring clarity, thats great.

Regards
 
Just to bump this one up again ...I personally have seen no authentic evidence to support biblical 'tongues' or the use of unlearned foreign languages for today. Even though some will argue the point that spiritual gifts are indeed for all of every (earth) age, 'tongues' or 'foreign languages' really do seem to have been given to specific people for a specific purpose and for a specific period of time.

Again, while God can do whatever He wants any time, I have never personally witnessed any authentic examples of 'biblical tongues'. Pentecostal 'tongues' are a completely separate issue and should NOT be given the time of day on a Christian forum.
 
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