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Bible Study Bible Study-27 (Down fall of a Country)

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Bible Study-27 (Down fall of a Country)

Down fall of a Country
Now coming to the year of AD-63, here we find that during this time that there was a book that was written by Paul and Peter both. Paul wrote the Book of Philippians, and Peter wrote himself the Book of First Peter himself. Here we find two great masters of the New Testament, with Christ as their King and the Godhead as their royal Kingdom in Heaven. I’m glad that they are not around today to witness how many of our church leaders, this is how they have now taken this same kingdom that they once worked for here on earth, by turning it around for their own benefits of glory.
When our God gave this country unto our forefathers, we know that our country has come a long ways – by being under God. Then becoming the great promise land, in which we have learned to love living here within our country of today. God was the only one that could have given us this great promise lands, and then God is also the only one that can allow it to be taken away from us as God’s people once again wonder in the wildness.

This is the same as God’s children once wondered in the wilderness for forty years; God is now calling for us to change. Then if we do not then we shall also find ourselves wondering within this our own great wilderness, of what shall then become or called our own Tribulations. It was only because of our forefathers, that they were then willing to keep our country under God, in which they were able to build a country out of nothing. It was only through God, that our forefathers were able to fulfill this great democracy.
This only came about from our forefather, and then it will only be from the will of our courts, that it can be taken away from us, as our courts drift our country away from this blessing – of being under God. With a freedom that has blossomed, which was founded upon their very own prosperity in God, which in time was to become the greatest nation here on earth. We also know that it shall be under God, that if we should lose this freedom, by turning from God.

With God giving our many churches dominion over all things, then it will be up to us to bring our country back under this great dominion of our Godhead. For if we do not, then we will have to face God’s own judgment and wrath on this sin. Then we will find out in many ways, that this shall not and will not become a laughing matter, when it comes to the will of our one and only Godhead, as we find in the Book of Philippians the first chapter.
1:27-“Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel:â€Â
1:28-“And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God,â€Â
1:29-“For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;â€Â

Now going to the Second Chapter of Philippians, 2:5-“Let this mind be in you, which was also Jesus Christ:â€Â
2:6-“Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:â€Â
2:7-“But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in likeness of Man:â€Â
2:8-“And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and become obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.â€Â
2:9-“Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:â€Â
2:10-“That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;â€Â
2:11-“And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.â€Â

Also here in the same year of AD-63 we find God is once again sowing the seed of his Gospel unto Peter, which was one of Christ’s own disciples. Telling us that as Christians we will have to suffer for what we believe. Many times this shall come from the ones that call themselves our brothers in Christ; this shall be the ones that have been lead and coached by these false prophets of today.
We shall be persecuted because we do not believe as many, for not believing or looking up to their own rational beliefs coming from the spirit of darkness. Which will and shall also be coming only from the will of men, by up lifting and building up their own will for gain, which are also coming from the darkness of Satan.

For within the last days there shall rise many false prophets, in which we must and can only look to the Bible. Which is the true word of God being the word of old, which will and shall become our one and only deliverance, as we find in the first Book of Peter. 1:2-“Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.â€Â
1:3-“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,â€Â
1:4-“To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,â€Â
1:5-“Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be reveal in the last time.â€Â

1:7“That the trail of your faith, being much more precious than that of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:â€Â
1:8-“Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, through now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:â€Â
1:9-“Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.â€Â
1:13-“Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;â€Â
1:14-“As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lust in your ignorance:â€Â
1:15-“But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;â€Â

1:16-“Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.â€Â
1:17-“And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of person judgeth according to every man’s work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:â€Â
1:18-“Forasmuch as ye know that ye were redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;â€Â
1:19-â€Åt with the precious blood of Christ, as a lamb without blemish and without spot:â€Â
1:21-“Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,â€Â
1:22-“Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.â€Â

God Bless You
Herbert
 
God has indeed blessed this nation (the USA) as one of the descriptions in the bible shows in Genesis 49:

Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him: But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.

And He will watch over His people provided we turn back to him so that these blessings may continue to abound. But yes, I can see the USA going downhill and we will ultimately experience tribulation and then God's saving hand again as shown in Jeremiah 30:

Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
 
tim_from_pa said:
God has indeed blessed this nation (the USA) as one of the descriptions in the bible shows in Genesis 49:

Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall: The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him: But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb: The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.

And He will watch over His people provided we turn back to him so that these blessings may continue to abound. But yes, I can see the USA going downhill and we will ultimately experience tribulation and then God's saving hand again as shown in Jeremiah 30:

Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

Wait a minute.

What do you mean when you say USA is "His people?"
 
HisFriend said:
Wait a minute.

What do you mean when you say USA is "His people?"

Yes. Ten of the tribes of Israel were lost to history. These people became Gentiles and as such embraced the gospel. The Jews on the other hand, are not really all 12 tribes as any knowledgeable historian and theologian will testify to. The Jews are primarily two tribes Judah and Benjamin. They have the scepter promises, but the birthright promises went to the tribe of Joseph, so the Jews do not possess the birthright, if by Jew, one means the tribe of Judah as I do.

The prophecies and promises to Israel are oftentimes to the ten tribes to the north, which was not to the Jew. Mistaken interpretation is often the case when the prophecies to one set of people are applied to the other. It's as if we take the history of the United States and apply the history of the Yankees to the Rebels. The same can be said of God's two chosen nations: the house of Israel and the house of Judah. They are two separate and distinct people.

Wherever the lost tribe of Joseph went also went the birthright. What was included in that birthright? They were to become a multitude of nations, one great nation (Genesis 35:11, Genesis 48:19), Because of their disobedience they were to be known as "not my people" (hence losing their identity in exile) Hosea 1:9, but then known as "sons of the Living God" (Hosea 1:10) and thus "known by a new name" (Isaiah 62:2) which sounds very "Christian" but these prophecies were clearly applied to Israel (not the Jew). The whole purpose was that Judah (the Jews) retained the Law while Israel became a light to the nations (Isaiah 49:6) which became colonizing nations, introduced advancements to backward nations, and preached the gospel. This then included people of all races (Ezekiel 17:23--"fowl of every wing).

This blows to h### the theory that DNA evidence can prove or disprove that the United States, Great Britain and neighboring European nations really descended from Israel from these migrating lost tribes. God's word promised that He would watch over them. They are lost to themselves, but not to God. They had a specific purpose to fulfill. In the end, the two sticks will be rejoined together again (Ezekiel 37) and claim the "promised land".

Simple logic dictates that if Ezekiel 37 takes place in the end times, then there must be two distinct (physical) people of God, otherwise the two sticks cannot be rejoined. The Jew is one group---- I stated who I believe is the other based on Scripture.

There is also archeological and historical evidence as well, but to keep the post from getting too long, I will not go into it here.
 
tim_from_pa said:
HisFriend said:
Wait a minute.

What do you mean when you say USA is "His people?"

Yes. Ten of the tribes of Israel were lost to history. These people became Gentiles and as such embraced the gospel. The Jews on the other hand, are not really all 12 tribes as any knowledgeable historian and theologian will testify to. The Jews are primarily two tribes Judah and Benjamin. They have the scepter promises, but the birthright promises went to the tribe of Joseph, so the Jews do not possess the birthright, if by Jew, one means the tribe of Judah as I do.

The prophecies and promises to Israel are oftentimes to the ten tribes to the north, which was not to the Jew. Mistaken interpretation is often the case when the prophecies to one set of people are applied to the other. It's as if we take the history of the United States and apply the history of the Yankees to the Rebels. The same can be said of God's two chosen nations: the house of Israel and the house of Judah. They are two separate and distinct people.

Wherever the lost tribe of Joseph went also went the birthright. What was included in that birthright? They were to become a multitude of nations, one great nation (Genesis 35:11, Genesis 48:19), Because of their disobedience they were to be known as "not my people" (hence losing their identity in exile) Hosea 1:9, but then known as "sons of the Living God" (Hosea 1:10) and thus "known by a new name" (Isaiah 62:2) which sounds very "Christian" but these prophecies were clearly applied to Israel (not the Jew). The whole purpose was that Judah (the Jews) retained the Law while Israel became a light to the nations (Isaiah 49:6) which became colonizing nations, introduced advancements to backward nations, and preached the gospel. This then included people of all races (Ezekiel 17:23--"fowl of every wing).

This blows to h### the theory that DNA evidence can prove or disprove that the United States, Great Britain and neighboring European nations really descended from Israel from these migrating lost tribes. God's word promised that He would watch over them. They are lost to themselves, but not to God. They had a specific purpose to fulfill. In the end, the two sticks will be rejoined together again (Ezekiel 37) and claim the "promised land".

Simple logic dictates that if Ezekiel 37 takes place in the end times, then there must be two distinct (physical) people of God, otherwise the two sticks cannot be rejoined. The Jew is one group---- I stated who I believe is the other based on Scripture.

There is also archeological and historical evidence as well, but to keep the post from getting too long, I will not go into it here.

madness.
 
In all due respect, where is your scripture that refutes this very clear teaching that God's people Israel would become many nations? I get the same (unimaginative) reply all the time, and yet nothing in its place is offered. In other words, what is your explanation for example that the tribe of Ephraim would become many nations? You probably have none. Yet, these SAME promises were included in the promise of Messiah. Throw these out, and their critical role in God's purpose, and you throw out Christ as well and worship one of your imagination.

you see, if people are going to believe you (and your handle) you have to offer something substantial.
 
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