BIBLE STUDY

[TheStudent]

WORDS

Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them and said, "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me.

Joh 14:24 "He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me.

Joh 12:49 "For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak.

WILL

Joh 4:34 Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his work.

Joh 6:38 "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

Lu 22:42 saying, "Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done."

POWER

Joh 5:30 "I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.

Joh 8:42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.

KNOWLEDGE

Mr 13:32 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Mt 24:36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.

Joh 7:16 So Jesus answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me;

STATUS

Mt 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Mr 10:18 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.

8:50 "And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges.

Is Jesus the Unique son of God ?

The Bible confirms that Jesus is not the unique son of God.

"And thou [Moses] shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my first born." (Exodus 4:22),

"He [Solomon] shall build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father and he shall be my son." (II Samuel 7:13-14),

"I am a father to Israel and Ephraim is my firstborn"(Jeremiah 31:9), 'long before Jesus was born', "I will declare the decree:the Lord hath said unto me [David], Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee."(Psalm 2:7),

and "Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God"(Luke3: 38).

Do the few I mentioned have this "unique begotten son relationship"? Is Jesus still unique because he had no father?

Well brothers and sisters, Adam and Eve had no father or mother. Jesus is a word of God, God said "be" and then Jesus was created, Quran 19:9. It is Blasphemy to say God begotten (sired) Jesus.

Jesus called himself son of man and refused to be called son of God.

"And the devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak; for they knew that he was Christ." (Luke 4:11)

and again "He [Jesus] said unto them [the disciples], But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The
Christ of God. And he straightly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing." (Luke 9:20 and 21).

 

[Gary]

John 10:30 I and the Father are one.



P.S. TheStudent plagiarized part of his post from one of these sources:
http://www.submission.org/jesus-son.html or
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/4229/unique.html

The Bible confirms that Jesus is not the unique son of God.

"And thou [Moses] shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my first born." (Exodus 4:22),

"He [Solomon] shall build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father and he shall be my son." (II Samuel 7:13-14),

"I am a father to Israel and Ephraim is my firstborn"(Jeremiah 31:9), 'long before Jesus was born', "I will declare the decree:the Lord hath said unto me [David], Thou art my son; this day have I begotten thee."(Psalm 2:7),

and "Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God"(Luke3: 38).

Do the few I mentioned have this "unique begotten son relationship"? Is Jesus still unique because he had no father?
Well brothers and sisters, Adam and Eve had no father or mother. Jesus is a word of God, God said "be" and then Jesus was created, Quran 19:9. It is Blasphemy to say God begotten (sired) Jesus.

Jesus called himself son of man and refused to be called son of God.

"And the devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak; for they knew that he was Christ." (Luke 4:11)

and again "He [Jesus] said unto them [the disciples], But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The
Christ of God. And he straightly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing." (Luke 9:20 and 21).

:o :o

Fairly common. Muhammad also plagiarized. In this case, TheStudent copies over the bad grammar and spelling mistakes as well!

In fact, TheStudent copied DIRECTLY from:
http://www.submission.org/jesus-god.html

:-? :o :-?

 

[Gary]

"Hadith & Sunna" are Satanic inventions

Now that we know that TheStudent uses the Submission site, I wonder if he agrees with the Submission site that:

The continued research then unveiled a startling fact; that the extremely popular "Hadith & Sunna" have nothing to do with the prophet Muhammad, and that adherence thereto represents flagrant disobedience of God and His final prophet (Quran 6:112 & 25:31).

This finding contradicts the beliefs of Muslim masses everywhere. Consequently, my personal popularity, and even the popularity of the Quran's miracle, plunged to the point of endangering my life and reputation. As it turned out, telling the Muslims that "Hadith & Sunna" are Satanic inventions is the same as telling the Christians that Jesus is not the son of God.

:o :o :o

http://www.submission.org/qhi.html

:o :o :o

 

[Qasim786]

Gary im sure your familiar with plagarizm. Could you tell me who copied from who please?

2 KINGS 19

AND it came to pass. when king Hez-e-ki'-ah heard it, that he rent his clothes, and covered himself with sackcloth, and went into the house of the lord.
2 And he sent E-li'-a-kim. which was over the household, and Shebna the scribe, and the 'elders of the priests, covered with sackcloth, to Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz.
3 And they said unto him. Thus saith Hez-e-ki'-ah, This day is a day of trouble, and of rebuke, and blasphemy : for the children are come to the birth, and there is not strength to bring forth.
5 So the servants of king Hez-e-ki'-ah came to Isaiah.
10 Thus shall ye speak to Hez-e-ki'-ah king of Judah, saying. Let not thy God in whom thou trustest deceive thee, saying. Jerusalem shall not be delivered into the hand of the king of Assyria.
11 Behold, thou hast heard what the kings of Assyria have done to all lands, by destroying them utterly: and shalt thou be delivered?
12 Have the gods of the nations delivered them which my fathers have destroyed; as Gozan, and Ha-ran. and Rezeph. and the children of Eden which were in Thel'-a-sar?
14 And Hez-e-ki'-ah received the letter of the hand of the messengers. and read it: and Hezekiah went up into the house of the lord, and spread it before the lord;
15 And Hez-e-ki'-ah prayed before the lord, and said. O lord God of Israel, which dwellest between the cher'-u-bims. thou art the God. even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth, thou hast made heaven and earth.

ISAIAH 37

AND it came to pass. when king Hez-e-ki'-ah heard it, that he rent his clothes, and covered himself with sackcloth, and went into the house of the lord.
2 And he sent E-li'-a-kim. who was over the household, and Shebna the scribe, and the elders of the priests covered with sackcloth, unto Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz.
3 And they said unto him. Thus saith Hez-e-ki'-ah, This day is a day of trouble, and of rebuke, and of blasphemy: for the children are come to the birth, and there is not strength to bring forth.
5 So the servants of king Hez-e-ki'-ah came to Isaiah.
10 Thus shall ye speak to Hez-e-ki'-ah king of Judah. saying. Let not thy God. in whom thou trustest, deceive thee, saving, Jerusalem shall not be given into the hand of the king of Assyria.
11 Behold, thou hast heard what the kings of Assyria have done to all lands by destroying them utterly; and shall thou be delivered?
12 Have the gods of the nations delivered them which my fathers have destroyed, as Gozan, and Har-an. and Rezeph. and the children of Eden which were in Te-las'-sar?
14 And Hez-e-ki'-ah received the letter from the hand of the messengers, and read it: and Hezekiah went up unto the house of the lord, and spread it before the lord.
15 And Hez-e-ki'-ah prayed unto the lord, saying,
16 O lord of hosts. God of Israel. that dwellest between the cher'-u-bims, thou art the God, even thou alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth: thou hast made heaven and earth.

2 KINGS 19: 36-37

36 So Sen-nach'-er-ib king of Assyria departed, and went and returned, and dwelt at Nin'-e-veh.
37 And it came to pass. as he was worshipping in the house of Nis'-roch his god, that A-dram'-me-lech and Sha-re'-zer his sons smote him with the sword: and they escaped into (he land of Armenia. And E-sar-had'-don his son reigned in his stead.

ISAIAH 37: 37-38

37 So Sen-nach'-er-ib king of Assyria departed, and went and returned. and dwelt at Nin'-e-veh.
38 And it came to pass. as he was worshipping in thc_house of Nis'-roch his god, that A-dram'-me-lecb and Sha-rc'-zcr his sons smote him with the sword; and they escaped into the land of Armenia: and E'-sar-had'-don his son reigned in his stead.

http://www.jamaat.net/bible/Bible4-6.html

 

[Gary]

Oh dear, Deedat again!!!

Are you Muslims not aware that EVERYTHING.... I mean, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that Deedat has ever written against Christianity has been totally refuted?

Today, even Muslims know that Deedat is a liar...

Today, Deedat lies silenced on his bed, unable to speak and hurl insults at Christians any longer.

For your answers, start here:
http://www.the-good-way.com/eng/article/a02.htm
and
http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchris ... story.html

then go back and see Deedat's work TOTALLY refuted here:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Response ... /index.htm

Want to see what other Muslims think about the QUALITY of Deedat's "scholarship"? Read this and CRY:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Response ... eedat.html

 

[Qasim786]

Oh Dear....more rants

so are you going to tell me why The first 15 or so lines of 2 Kings 19, are almost identical to those of ISAIAH 37. Arent these passages attributed different authors supposedly centuries apart. Please post your answer if you have one, i could not find it amongst the links you posted.

 

[DivineNames]

Oh Dear....more rants

so are you going to tell me why The first 15 or so lines of 2 Kings 19, are almost identical to those of ISAIAH 37. Arent these passages attributed different authors supposedly centuries apart. Please post your answer if you have one, i could not find it amongst the links you posted.

Doesn't the Quran plagiarize from apocrypha?