[_ Old Earth _] Blue! En guarde

[Guest]

The Tuatha'an:Evolution - The change in the frequency of alleles in a gene pool over time.


That is the definition of Biological Evolution.

:roll: And I'll tell you yet again, NO IT IS NOT!
Medical science is not evolution. When will you ever understand
that? The alleles in the gene pool have nothing to do with your
evolution religion at all.
God made the human body,and man still hasn't figured out how.
DNA is great evidence that God made all human beings.

 

[Guest]

Right! Like you answer any questions accurately?

You don't ask questions, blue.

You already know that medical science doesn't support
evolution,yet you try to claim it does.

Hmmm...so show me how medical science does not support evolution.

[quote:cb3df]You can't even define christianity!

Christianity is religion that focuses on the relationship between God and his Creation. Specifically, between the Human Race and Jesus.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.[/quote:cb3df]

:Fade-color Tell me how medicine supports evolution.
Christianity is not religion,it is a relationship To God The Father,The Son,
and The Holy Ghost. It is faith in the holy scriptures,and it is not defined
by what the world says it is.

 

[Guest]

If this is all the reasoning you guys can muster to justify your inability to define biological evolution, I'm not surprised you don't accept it. I'm sick and tired of you two slamming something you both don't even understand, and when someone asks you to define it, even though the definition of the theory has not changed since I started learning about it 5 years ago, you both harp about how the definition changes.

:wink: We are not the ones making the outrageous claims that
all professions must back us up in order to have a leg to stand on.
Without your claims that medicine,Geography,Science,Astronomy,and
a whole host of others,that you say support evolution it wouldn't have
made it this far.
Belief in God doesn't need to claim it has support by all professions
and fields. The Bible is not dependent on anything or anyone,it has
God. It's not surprizing at all,that other professions back up what
the bible says,but God and the bible are not dependent on whether or
not man can understand it in any profession,School,College,ect....
Evolution however would fall apart even faster if more people found out
that it's not supported by all the professions you all claim it is.

 

[Asimov]

NO IT IS NOT!
Medical science is not evolution. When will you ever understand
that? The alleles in the gene pool have nothing to do with your
evolution religion at all.
God made the human body,and man still hasn't figured out how.
DNA is great evidence that God made all human beings.

Wow....blue, you really are reaching far now. When did I ever mention medical science?? Never. That is the definition of Biological Evolution. Whether you like it or not.

If you think I'm wrong, then correct me, what is the definition of evolution?

 

[Asimov]

Tell me how medicine supports evolution.

It's the other way around. Through the study of genetics and our relationships to other species of lifeforms, and the study of the human genome, we can also study viruses, as well as diseases that are passed on through the lineage, to gain a better understanding. In order to fight these diseases, we must understand them as well.

Christianity is not religion,it is a relationship To God The Father,The Son,
and The Holy Ghost.

"Christianity is religion that focuses on the relationship between God and his Creation. Specifically, between the Human Race and Jesus."

How is that different from what you just said?? It's the same definition, worded differently. It is a religion in all aspects of the definition of religion.

It is faith in the holy scriptures,and it is not defined
by what the world says it is.

a religion is:

7 entries found for religion.
re·li·gion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-ljn)
n.

Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.

A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.


You believe in a supernatural power (God), and you worship him. That is a religion.

 

[mh13]

Judy and mods and the rest of ya,

I'm sorry for the unchristlike nature of several of my posts. I will find a thesaurus.
I got carried away and I apologize

 

[Vic C.]

You're excused. :D Besides that, this is a useless thread at this point and probably should be shut down. :-?

 

[Asimov]

You're excused. :D Besides that, this is a useless thread at this point and probably should be shut down. :-?

I don't think it's necessary for you to shut it down, th is thread self-destructed. And I wont be discussing anything with people who refuse to listen.

 

[Guest]

[ThinkerMan"]Blue

I did you the courtesy of defining your beliefs so you could fine tune them and I can understand your position.

All we are asking is that you do the same please.

:angel: Thinkerman,No offense,but you did not describe my
beliefs at all. You used a worldly,uneducated opinion and totally
dis-regarded all truth that applies to true christians.

 

[Guest]

The Tuatha'an:

Blue...I asked you not to post a link, you did. I asked you to define evolution, you did not define what evolution is! Evolution can be defined in 1 sentence!!! 1 sentence!!! I'm not asking you to write a freakin thesis paper!! Define what evolution is. If you cannot, you are not even fit to argue about evolution!

Define Biological Evolution.

:B-fly: The word "Evolution" has many meanings.
Some claim it is the subtle changes that occur in every
species of creation as it changes into another species.
Whether by mutations,or other so called changes in the
creation,or species. I,of course,don't accept these false
claims.
Evolution to some people is: One animal changing into another
animal. This is also not true in my opinion.
Saying that all christians have blind faith is one of the biggest lie's
told by satan to this world.
"I cannot believe in my heart what my mind cannot accept."
Christians are not stupid. Many christians are great intellectuals,and
to say that all christians are ignorant is in itself ignorant and false.
Claiming that the medical field supports biological evolution is also
a huge lie. There has not ever been any evidence that shows that
biological evolution has ever happened. This is why all christians should
educate themselves on these issues and subjects.
Evolution is the false notion that man can become his own God,and even
that he can be God. What a big mistake on the part of the weak minded
and the simple.
It takes much greater faith to believe that,than it does to believe the Holy
God of the holy bible,amen.

 

[ThinkerMan]

Thinkerman,No offense,but you did not describe my
beliefs at all. You used a worldly,uneducated opinion and totally
dis-regarded all truth that applies to true christians.

Ok Blue, then in a few paragraphs please explain to me your beliefs as they relate to YEC.

Since I so widely missed the mark, I would appreciate you letting me know your beliefs so we can have more a more informed discussion.

Here is the link to what I wrote so you can review how I erred....


http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... ht=#104411

 

[Guest]

:roll: I've seen this before. The old "you don't know what evolution is" routine :roll:

I'm not claiming she doesn't know what evolution is mhess. I'm asking her to define it. Simple as that. If she says she cannot define it, then she doesn't know what evolution is.

Why don't you define what evolution is, mhess???

:Fade-color Leave mhess out of this. He gave his honest
opinion,so leave it at that. He's not as use to individuals
such as yourselves as I am. Evolution is the false idea that
one species can change into another species over millions
or more years. Evolution makes many false assumptions
and it tries it's best to claim science among many other professions
yet it has no evidence at all,and no truth to go on.
When we open the minds of the people,they will also see the truth
about this ridiculous claim of evolution and that it is an ancient idea
made up long ago by pagan religious groups.

 

[Guest]

[ThinkerMan"]

Thinkerman,No offense,but you did not describe my
beliefs at all. You used a worldly,uneducated opinion and totally
dis-regarded all truth that applies to true christians.

Ok Blue, then in a few paragraphs please explain to me your beliefs as they relate to YEC.

Since I so widely missed the mark, I would appreciate you letting me know your beliefs so we can have more a more informed discussion.

:B-fly: You cannot make TOE fit into anything concerning YEC.
You can try,but they are natural enemies to one another and they
have no relation what so ever. And you didn't even know that,did
you?
I don't believe in TOE,but I do believe it can be kicked with FOOT!

:wink: As you already know,my views concerning YEC have everything
to do with The book of Genesis and all of the Holy Bible.
I read and I view the Holy Scriptures totally different than you do,and
I don't accept any false claims that the bible contradicts itself.
The Bible challenges us to study. God is not opposed to education at all
as any informed bible reader knows.
"IN THE BEGINNING,GOD"! whats so hard to understand or accept about
that? In fact,why can't you believe that there is a God? This is very odd
to me ,unless you just don't want there to be a God.

 

[Guest]

The Tuatha'an:
No, we are prone to argue with people who don't know what they're talking about, to show others that they don't know what they're talking about.


Medicine isn't a field!!! It's a part of biology!! Evolution is a part of biology!

:roll: Yes,Medicine is a field. It is a profession.
Medicine doesn't back up nor does it confirm TOE.
You know that you have come here to force your opinion and
argue because you have no one to argue with you at your own
forums. If I don't know what I am talking about,you have wasted
everyones time here. Look at how long it took you to jump to another
one of your false assumptions.
TOE is not supported and it has not been proven. You are the one who
doesn't know what it is. If you did,you'd for sure already know that much.

 

[ThinkerMan]

Blue.

You misunderstand. I don't want you to fit TOE into your beliefs. I simply want you to articulate your beliefs about why the world is the way it is.

I know you don't believe in TOE. I know you don't believe the bible contradicts itself. That is not my intention to raise that debate at this pint. I simply want to make sure that I understand your beliefs accurately.

What exactly did I describe about your beliefs that was in error?

 

[Guest]

[The Tuatha'an"][blueeyeliner]NO IT IS NOT!
Medical science is not evolution. When will you ever understand
that? The alleles in the gene pool have nothing to do with your
evolution religion at all.
God made the human body,and man still hasn't figured out how.
DNA is great evidence that God made all human beings.


Wow....blue, you really are reaching far now. When did I ever mention medical science?? Never. That is the definition of Biological Evolution. Whether you like it or not.

If you think I'm wrong, then correct me, what is the definition of evolution?

:B-fly: Evolution is the false myth that humans evolved from an ape
like creature,and that we all share a common ancestor with the Apes.
Medicine is not evolution.

 

[Guest]

The Tuatha'an:The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.


You believe in a supernatural power (God), and you worship him. That is a religion.

:B-fly: It may be a religion to some people,but not to the true christian
because if you are a true christian you have a relationship with God and
his son,and the Spirit. You live it everyday,not just once or twice a week.
You cannot use the definitions that the world uses to describe all those
who are true christians. Religion means going back to Babylon.
Pagans usually call themselves religious.

 

[Guest]

Christianity is religion that focuses on the relationship between God and his Creation. Specifically, between the Human Race and Jesus.

How is that different from what you just said??

:B-fly: It's different because it's personal. God has a one on one
relationship with each one of his children. If you are called by God
you will know it,amen.

 

[Guest]

[ThinkerMan"]Blue.

You misunderstand. I don't want you to fit TOE into your beliefs. I simply want you to articulate your beliefs about why the world is the way it is.

I know you don't believe in TOE. I know you don't believe the bible contradicts itself. That is not my intention to raise that debate at this pint. I simply want to make sure that I understand your beliefs accurately.

What exactly did I describe about your beliefs that was in error?

:B-fly: I believe you know what I believe already.
I believe everything the bible says about the world,past,present
and future.
Read 1st Kings 19: 18
I believe that the book of Genesis lays down the foundation of all
scripture and this is the reason satan attacks it so violently.