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Ehh who thinks this film should be watched??
Does anyone reckon it has any moral and themes?? Well just wanted to know..
Does anyone reckon it has any moral and themes?? Well just wanted to know..
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I just can't get past the fact that it is about gay cowboys... :wink:
The director is going to get an oscar for "groundbreaking" material. It is like the artist peeing in a jar and calling it art. The "groundbreaking" is the depths of stupidity that people have who call everything new or edgy great.
I'm am in no way condoning homosexuality, but at least portray them in a way that isn't a joke. Gay cowboy...that is a joke, it has to be.
The director is going to get an oscar for "groundbreaking" material. It is like the artist peeing in a jar and calling it art. The "groundbreaking" is the depths of stupidity that people have who call everything new or edgy great.
I'm am in no way condoning homosexuality, but at least portray them in a way that isn't a joke. Gay cowboy...that is a joke, it has to be.
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I have absolutely no desire to see it, and I really wouldn't mind if it didn't make a buck. It'll be a wasted Oscar, in my opinion.
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From my Blog Entry:
Why I want to see Brokeback Mountain
I've never been a fan of movie trailers because I think they reveal too much. Same thing with critical reviews. I rarely read them before I see a movie because I don't want any preconceived notions.
Case in point:
Crash. I had heard absolutely nothing about this film before watching it, not even one preview. Yet, it made me think. It challenged me. It evoked strong emotions. It brought about changes within me; the kind that make me ashamed that they ever needed to happen in the first place. It's an excellent film with flawless direction and a thought provoking script which was executed brilliantly by an award winning cast.
Mind you, it's a harsh film - Rated R for it's profanity, violence, racial slurs, sexual content. (You know, all those things that the AFA and other conservative organizations petition against.)
Another film I saw this year is The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Of course I saw previews for this film, I mean, how could I not? Previews were shown almost back to back. It was widely discussed on the internet. This film was marketed in such a way that I didn't have a choice to see previews. Not to mention, I've been familiar with the storyline and characters since childhood, so I didn't just have preconceived notions for this film, I had high expectations. Unfortunately, it did not meet those expectations.
When the ending credits began to roll, I found myself looking around in disbelief. I wanted to scream "that's it?!", but didn't. I wanted a refund of my time and money as I felt both were wasted that day. It was trite, uneventful, and very cliché. Yes, I know it was adapted from a book and that too many changes would have distorted the story, but I wasn't paying for a book that day. The characters were cute and the special effects were great, but I like movies with a bit more substance than that. Moral themes aside, this movie affected me very little and I like movies that affect me.
So that brings me to 2005's third major release, Brokeback Mountain. I've not seen it yet, so I can't comment like I have the other two, but I do want to explain why I titled this entry the way I did. It's no secret that this film has caused a lot of controversy. Several theaters cancelled it, conservative organizations protested it, and it's received worldwide publicity all because of the homosexual relationship that it portrays.
I can name several movies that had lesbian relationships that never got canceled. If a sect, whether it be the extreme left or the right, wish to make a stance such as this, I wish they would remain consistent instead of making fools of themselves. I'd have an easier time siding with the churches on this one if they had the same resolve about movies that contained any sin, instead of pinpointing the one with a homosexual storyline. I am constantly hearing about the homosexual agenda, but what about the anti-homosexual agenda? Biblically, there is one unforgiveable sin and homosexuality aint it.
My "desire" to see Brokeback Mountain began last week at my office. I was listening to a few co-workers talk about movies and of course, Brokeback Mountain was mentioned. Comments like "gross" and "no way I'm seeing it" were made. Quite frankly, it reeked of double standard and I was determined to prove this point to them. Later in the day I joined in on another conversation with them with the intention of bringing up more movies and t.v. series that contained homosexual themes. I found it interesting that they each had great things to say about them, without realizing the the point I was trying to make. I brought up films like Basic Instinct and Boys on the side and tv shows like The L Word and Sex and the City. All of these portrayed homosexual relationships or themes, yet were "accepted" by my co-workers simply because they were lesbian relationships. So, it's "gross" and unacceptable when it's two men, but cool when it's two women. Double standard proven.
I want to see the film so that I can make a formed opinion of it myself. I didn't hear a single review of Crash and I loved it, yet I heard the world of Narnia and wasn't impressed. So, I want to be the judge of what films I like or don't like and I won't refrain from seeing a film simply because it's main characters are gay. That would be so hypocritical of me given the other films I see and like that portray other types of sinful lifestyles. I simply won't do it.
So, that's why I want to see Brokeback Mountain. I'll be sure to post back after I've seen it and inform you of any regrets I may or may not have.
Why I want to see Brokeback Mountain
I've never been a fan of movie trailers because I think they reveal too much. Same thing with critical reviews. I rarely read them before I see a movie because I don't want any preconceived notions.
Case in point:
Crash. I had heard absolutely nothing about this film before watching it, not even one preview. Yet, it made me think. It challenged me. It evoked strong emotions. It brought about changes within me; the kind that make me ashamed that they ever needed to happen in the first place. It's an excellent film with flawless direction and a thought provoking script which was executed brilliantly by an award winning cast.
Mind you, it's a harsh film - Rated R for it's profanity, violence, racial slurs, sexual content. (You know, all those things that the AFA and other conservative organizations petition against.)
Another film I saw this year is The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Of course I saw previews for this film, I mean, how could I not? Previews were shown almost back to back. It was widely discussed on the internet. This film was marketed in such a way that I didn't have a choice to see previews. Not to mention, I've been familiar with the storyline and characters since childhood, so I didn't just have preconceived notions for this film, I had high expectations. Unfortunately, it did not meet those expectations.
When the ending credits began to roll, I found myself looking around in disbelief. I wanted to scream "that's it?!", but didn't. I wanted a refund of my time and money as I felt both were wasted that day. It was trite, uneventful, and very cliché. Yes, I know it was adapted from a book and that too many changes would have distorted the story, but I wasn't paying for a book that day. The characters were cute and the special effects were great, but I like movies with a bit more substance than that. Moral themes aside, this movie affected me very little and I like movies that affect me.
So that brings me to 2005's third major release, Brokeback Mountain. I've not seen it yet, so I can't comment like I have the other two, but I do want to explain why I titled this entry the way I did. It's no secret that this film has caused a lot of controversy. Several theaters cancelled it, conservative organizations protested it, and it's received worldwide publicity all because of the homosexual relationship that it portrays.
I can name several movies that had lesbian relationships that never got canceled. If a sect, whether it be the extreme left or the right, wish to make a stance such as this, I wish they would remain consistent instead of making fools of themselves. I'd have an easier time siding with the churches on this one if they had the same resolve about movies that contained any sin, instead of pinpointing the one with a homosexual storyline. I am constantly hearing about the homosexual agenda, but what about the anti-homosexual agenda? Biblically, there is one unforgiveable sin and homosexuality aint it.
My "desire" to see Brokeback Mountain began last week at my office. I was listening to a few co-workers talk about movies and of course, Brokeback Mountain was mentioned. Comments like "gross" and "no way I'm seeing it" were made. Quite frankly, it reeked of double standard and I was determined to prove this point to them. Later in the day I joined in on another conversation with them with the intention of bringing up more movies and t.v. series that contained homosexual themes. I found it interesting that they each had great things to say about them, without realizing the the point I was trying to make. I brought up films like Basic Instinct and Boys on the side and tv shows like The L Word and Sex and the City. All of these portrayed homosexual relationships or themes, yet were "accepted" by my co-workers simply because they were lesbian relationships. So, it's "gross" and unacceptable when it's two men, but cool when it's two women. Double standard proven.
I want to see the film so that I can make a formed opinion of it myself. I didn't hear a single review of Crash and I loved it, yet I heard the world of Narnia and wasn't impressed. So, I want to be the judge of what films I like or don't like and I won't refrain from seeing a film simply because it's main characters are gay. That would be so hypocritical of me given the other films I see and like that portray other types of sinful lifestyles. I simply won't do it.
So, that's why I want to see Brokeback Mountain. I'll be sure to post back after I've seen it and inform you of any regrets I may or may not have.
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If you are willing to pay to see such sin filled behavior
in a movie you are no different than the person who buys a porno movie or magazine!
Homosexualtily is perverted sex. No different than pornography, pornography is perverted sex.
The fact that is it a love story about two gay men, let alone the fact the lure is that they are cowboys, is enough to keep me away from wanting to see the movie. No Christian has any business watching anything that depicts illicit sexual behavior. And by saying watching it is not a sin, is believing a lie! To watch illicit sexual acts is putting that junk into your mind! I don't watch horror movies nor do I watch junk! movies that have fornication in them.
I am not going to contribute money to the makings of such abominations. You may as well open your wallet and hand your money over to the devil himself for furthering the spreading of such sin-filled behavior.
By purchasing a ticket or renting or purchasing that movie you are then in essence contributing to the promotions of sin!
I have no desire to watch two men kissing each other.
Nor do I want to see it for the sole reason of "research in order "to gain my own opinion". :o :-?
The bible is clear about fornication.
And Watching it is participating in it...
In essense you are participating in a
A type of voyerism! By watching Junk like that, watching illicit sexual acts is voyerism ! :-?
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If you are willing to pay to see such sin filled behavior
in a movie you are no different than the person who buys a porno movie or magazine!
Homosexualtily is perverted sex. No different than pornography, pornography is perverted sex.
The fact that is it a love story about two gay men, let alone the fact the lure is that they are cowboys, is enough to keep me away from wanting to see the movie. No Christian has any business watching anything that depicts illicit sexual behavior. And by saying watching it is not a sin, is believing a lie! To watch illicit sexual acts is putting that junk into your mind! I don't watch horror movies nor do I watch junk! movies that have fornication in them.
I am not going to contribute money to the makings of such abominations. You may as well open your wallet and hand your money over to the devil himself for furthering the spreading of such sin-filled behavior.
By purchasing a ticket or renting or purchasing that movie you are then in essence contributing to the promotions of sin!
I have no desire to watch two men kissing each other.
Nor do I want to see it for the sole reason of "research in order "to gain my own opinion". :o :-?
The bible is clear about fornication.
And Watching it is participating in it...
In essense you are participating in a
A type of voyerism! By watching Junk like that, watching illicit sexual acts is voyerism ! :-?
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that's a little closed minded, maybe you should give it a chancecly said:
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She can afford to be closed-minded because she is right. You folks that are wrong need to be more open-minded so that you can eventually find the truth. Hopefully. How is the pennyarcade bunch?kinggambits said:that's a little closed minded, maybe you should give it a chancecly said:
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Dunno, if I'm one of the 'wrong' people you mentioned, but wrong or not I certainly know the Truth. ;-) I don't even see what that has to do with anything.Solo said:She can afford to be closed-minded because she is right. You folks that are wrong need to be more open-minded so that you can eventually find the truth. Hopefully. How is the pennyarcade bunch?kinggambits said:that's a little closed minded, maybe you should give it a chancecly said:
If it's OK for Christians to watch movies with violence, stealing, lying, adultery then what's the big deal if some Christians want to watch BBM? If Christians should stay away from any movies that contain sin, then that would rule out 95% of all movies.
I don't know what you mean by pennyarcade.
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I was responding to Kinggambits post. If you want to watch those movies, then you can do as God directs you. Cly said that she didn't have any desire to see it, and I am in agreement with her.Homeskillet said:Dunno, if I'm one of the 'wrong' people you mentioned, but wrong or not I certainly know the Truth. ;-) I don't even see what that has to do with anything.Solo said:She can afford to be closed-minded because she is right. You folks that are wrong need to be more open-minded so that you can eventually find the truth. Hopefully. How is the pennyarcade bunch?kinggambits said:that's a little closed minded, maybe you should give it a chancecly said:
If it's OK for Christians to watch movies with violence, stealing, lying, adultery then what's the big deal if some Christians want to watch BBM? If Christians should stay away from any movies that contain sin, then that would rule out 95% of all movies.
I don't know what you mean by pennyarcade.
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Cool, it was your use of "you folks" that led me to believe you were referring to more that just one post. :wink:
I just don't take kindly to my knowing the "truth" being questioned, which is what I thought was being done.
Agree to disagree has always worked for me. :D
I just don't take kindly to my knowing the "truth" being questioned, which is what I thought was being done.
Agree to disagree has always worked for me. :D
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The fact that hollywood wants to glorify the sin of homosexuality doesn't surprise me. I am just glad that I am not a citizen of this world, and have a place prepared for me in the kingdom of heaven where there is no such thing as sin.Homeskillet said:
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Me too, amen and amen!Solo said:
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how would I be more open minded by not seeing it?Solo said:She can afford to be closed-minded because she is right. You folks that are wrong need to be more open-minded so that you can eventually find the truth. Hopefully. How is the pennyarcade bunch?kinggambits said:that's a little closed minded, maybe you should give it a chancecly said:
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You do not have to be open-minded on a topic if you are correct. Why be open-minded when you are right?kinggambits said:how would I be more open minded by not seeing it?Solo said:She can afford to be closed-minded because she is right. You folks that are wrong need to be more open-minded so that you can eventually find the truth. Hopefully. How is the pennyarcade bunch?kinggambits said:that's a little closed minded, maybe you should give it a chancecly said:
You are wrong, so you have to be open-minded in order to eventually stumble onto the truth. After you have the truth on a topic, you have finished your open-minded trek, and can now be close-minded on the truth. If you do not operate in this fashion, every wind of doctrine will blow you hear and there and you will be virtually worthless.
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If you believe that someone is a bigot if they oppose sin and will not tolerate it then you do not know the definition of bigotry. I personally love and respect people who are homosexual but I will not tolerate nor accept their sin. I will love them and pray that he they come to know the Lord and the Holy Spirit can help them to overcome their sin but I will never condone or tolerate their sin. If you think I or Solo, or any other Christian for that matter is a bigot for holding that stance that is your personal right. I know that Solo and I only try to live by God’s standards and not mans.
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Ok, please guys...there are a gazillion other threads to debate homosexuality, bigotry and all that good stuff. There really is no need for namecalling anyway.
ABOUT the movie....here's the part I don't get.
There are people in this thread really questioning other people's intentions of seeing this film. Why not the same outrage in the threads for these films?
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21117
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21155
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=20418
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=15866
They depict sin too.
ABOUT the movie....here's the part I don't get.
There are people in this thread really questioning other people's intentions of seeing this film. Why not the same outrage in the threads for these films?
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21117
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21155
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=20418
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=15866
They depict sin too.
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As it's Oscars weekend, do see the spiritual insights to share with friends at this Christian review:-
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/brokeback_mountain.htm
Back with link to today's new Oscars thread (that inc other strategic links)
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21320
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http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/brokeback_mountain.htm
Back with link to today's new Oscars thread (that inc other strategic links)
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=21320
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I will see the film in the end, however It is not my sort of film due to the fact it is not a cowboy film. No shoot outs, no robbing of a bank or even, any cows or Indians. However, Even though I do not agree with the act of gays, I will not condemn it, neither will I cast films or people away, I have gay friends and they do not bother me, the lord gave them free will, and they have chose that right. Anyway to conclude, I think the film is good and deserves the awards, however not all this gays are wrong, its sin. HOW DARE ANYONE cast judgement on someone’s sexuality. It is not our job to judge, only god. Period.
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RichardE40K said:
Odd how people who call themselves christians not only are tolerate of homosexuality, they will go out of their way to support it also.
All in the name of open mindedness of course.
Do you think that you are building Gods kingdom and stewarding your money with integrity by helping to pay those producers big salaries? If Jesus lives in you then you would take him to see two men having sexual relations and feel fine about it?