Burning Bush Revelation

[4Israel]

I am absolutely convinced by the Spirit of the Most High God that if He were to speak to each and every one of you as He did to Moses (out of a burning bush) that He could not and would not change your hearts and minds concerning the 4 most controversial issues confronting the Church today. That is, a.) the timing of the Resurrection; b.) what requirements have to be met to be "born-again; c.) tithing; and last, but certainly not least: d.) the celebration of Christmas. As alway's I am amazed and bewildered that each and everyone of you has differing opinions that you can base on basically the same scriptural references concerning each of these very important issues. I think that speaks volumes. There is only 1 truth concerning each of these issues and only the Holy Spirit soverignly can reveal truth. The way that we can recognize THAT truth is that it will absolutely set us free. The standard should alway's be that if truth "revealed" doesn't completely and totally set you free then chances are that it isn't true.

 

[bibleberean]

I am absolutely convinced by the Spirit of the Most High God that if He were to speak to each and every one of you as He did to Moses (out of a burning bush) that He could not and would not change your hearts and minds concerning the 4 most controversial issues confronting the Church today. That is, a.) the timing of the Resurrection; b.) what requirements have to be met to be "born-again; c.) tithing; and last, but certainly not least: d.) the celebration of Christmas. As alway's I am amazed and bewildered that each and everyone of you has differing opinions that you can base on basically the same scriptural references concerning each of these very important issues. I think that speaks volumes. There is only 1 truth concerning each of these issues and only the Holy Spirit soverignly can reveal truth. The way that we can recognize THAT truth is that it will absolutely set us free. The standard should alway's be that if truth "revealed" doesn't completely and totally set you free the chances are that it isn't true.

Hi 4 Israel,

Your post is vague so I don't know what "truths" you are talking about.

Maybe you should take one issue and then state your stand based on the scriptures.

As it stands I haven't a clue as to what you are talking about so I don't know if I agree or disagree.

Thanks,

Robert

 

[4Israel]

re.

and that response from one chosen to be a moderator. why does that not surprise me.

 

[bibleberean]

Re: re.

and that response from one chosen to be a moderator. why does that not surprise me.

Hi Randy,

I am lost here. What do you mean?

I honestly don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.

I said I don't know how to respond to your post or if I agree with you or not because none of the issues you raise is spelled out clearly.

I just asked for clarification.

Thanks,

Robert

 

[MrVersatile48]

TO GET TO THE NUB..

It's unity in "the faith once for all delivered to the saints" that God wants

Not 1 verse of Scripture says that it matters 1 jot, tittle or iota if Jesus rose at 12.05am, 2.17am, or 3.37am, etc

It just prophesied, then recorded, that He would rise, & did rise, on the 3rd day, & that the tomb was found empty that morning, with Jesus appearing to Mary as the gardener

The vital point, as Jesus porphesied - as did Psalms, etc, is that the resurrection proved His victory over death & successful atonement for sin

Likewise, the Bible does not record the date of Jesus' birth

I know many details indicate it was summer, not winter, & that it was 6/7 BC - (as the original calendar was miscalculated & the uniquely bright conjunction of both the 'Royal Star' & the 'Star of Israel' was then)

But as every family on Earth celebrates the birthday of every member - as friends, neighbours, colleagues, etc do for each other's birthday, we are right to use this so-well-established holiday & festival to proclaim the great & glorious gospel of our Lord & Saviour, Jesus Christ

As to tithing, tho it is important for the blessings God promised in Malachi & in 2 Corinthians 8, etc, for generous giving to God's work, it is not a condition of salvation

Which brings us round to the most important point you raise, as some readers may well be asking that famous question: "What must I do to be saved?"

Take God at His Word

John 3, Romans 3, Galatians 2:15-16, Ephesians 2:8-9, etc, make it abundantly clear that we simply trust in Christ: ask Him to forgive all the wrong things you've ever thought, said & done & invite Him into your heart as Saviour & Lord

Our seeking to serve Him, & our fellow man, by good works, is out of sheer gratitude to God: we can't possibly earn salvation - it's by the sheer grace of God thru faith in the once-for-all atoning sacrifice of Christ

God bless!

Ian

 

[4Israel]

kind sir

would you be so kind as to extend me the courtesy of reading my post once again and this time as objectively as you possibly can. having done THAT.take the required time to meditate on what was ACTUALLY said. once you have done THAT. say these words PRAYERFULLY. " Lord, what EXACTLY is this brother trying to say?" Then, be real still and real quiet and i'am absolutely convinced that the Holy Spirit will clear it up for you. Thank's Robert.

 

[MrVersatile48]

Sorry: will YOU do GOD the courtesy of preferring HIS Word to your 'vain imaginings'?

We are commanded to 'take every thought captive to Christ'

Every false prophet claims that God is speaking to him in a way others must simply believe & obey

Jesus prophesied multiplying & intensifying 'birthpains' to bring on His instant airlift Great Delivery of all who love Him, before the worst time on Earth comes - see Matthew 24 etc

Those 'birthpains' are specified as all kinds of spiritual, natural & social disasters - inc false prophets/christs/teachers - hence the vital importance of the written Word of God: the Bible

God bless all who truly trust in Him!

Ian

 

[bibleberean]

Re: kind sir

would you be so kind as to extend me the courtesy of reading my post once again and this time as objectively as you possibly can. having done THAT.take the required time to meditate on what was ACTUALLY said. once you have done THAT. say these words PRAYERFULLY. " Lord, what EXACTLY is this brother trying to say?" Then, be real still and real quiet and i'am absolutely convinced that the Holy Spirit will clear it up for you. Thank's Robert.

I re read the post. I still don't know where you stand on Christmas the second coming, tithing etc. issues.

Where do you stand and on the issues raised and on what scriptural basis?

Thanks,

Robert

 

[Judy]

Re: kind sir

would you be so kind as to extend me the courtesy of reading my post once again and this time as objectively as you possibly can. having done THAT.take the required time to meditate on what was ACTUALLY said. once you have done THAT. say these words PRAYERFULLY. " Lord, what EXACTLY is this brother trying to say?" Then, be real still and real quiet and i'am absolutely convinced that the Holy Spirit will clear it up for you. Thank's Robert.

And can you do us a favor and take the chip off your sholder??

 

[greyfeather]

4Isreal,
. Are you implying that the people on here do not know anything and do not have true salvation through Christ ? You were ask to be more clear as to what you are asking by bibleberean and you insult him instead of being respectful and clarafing what you wrote. I cannot understand what you are asking because its not clear to me either. :-?


Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God.

 

[Vic C.]

Re: re.

and that response from one chosen to be a moderator. why does that not surprise me.

He is doing his duty as a Mod by asking the poster to claify. If you want your message to be understood and responded to in a fashion to your liking, it would be in your advantage to clarify your intentions.

Thank you,
Vic

 

[John the Baptist]

Wow! And only one page so far. I just took a peek, :o and 'i' surely can see the unity from all but one poster? We best get rid of him quickly, huh? (that is a question. :wink

And on second thought, I think that I will just leave this thread with all their 'warm brotherly love' for the sinners. Matthew 5:44-47 And... 'Publicans' Lord?? Whatever?? :

---John[/b]

 

[MrVersatile48]

GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR, DUDE!

Wow! And only one page so far. I just took a peek, :o and 'i' surely can see the unity from all but one poster? We best get rid of him quickly, huh? (that is a question. :wink

And on second thought, I think that I will just leave this thread with all their 'warm brotherly love' for the sinners. Matthew 5:44-47 And... 'Publicans' Lord?? Whatever?? :

---John[/b]

Dunno if S Carolina accent sounds like N Carolina, but I could just see & hear Billy Graham say that with a twinkle in his eye

Having had over 4 yrs now on several Christian discussion sites, I've often said that the greatest weakness of print is that readers can't hear the gently teasing tone, or see that twinkle in the eye

Thanks for reminding me of the value of emoticons: I used to use 'em regularly, but have felt so rushed by time limits on public PCs that I haven't done so for weeks now

Our 10.30 message, appropriately, was @ 1 Samuel 16:17-18

It's a lovely assessment of David, at the time he was surprise choice to be king

He practised hard to be so good on the harp..his bravery was proven in fighting bear & lion before God let him loose on Goliath..his speaking well was not a matter of accent but of absorbing & sharing God's wisdom, love & character, & even his fine looks would not just be accidents of bone structure & shape, but the fruit of spending much time with the Lord & refecting His character

Only 5 mins left to say that I was partly drawn to this thread by the OP having the courage to use the name,'4Israel, in case he needed support from likely flack - not knowing in advance what the OP was

Like the others, 4Is', I do encourage you to clarify

iN PRAYER FOR YOU, i SENSED CONFUSION

Must go!

Ian