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By what power does Satan raise the antichrist from the dead?

vic said:
Wait, lets back up a moment...

Ambient said:
This is a well known story in the bible. The antichrist is given a mortal wound and in 3 days he comes back to life at the amazement of the world. By what power is this ressurection acheived?
May we see some scripture for this?

I may have been wrong about the "3 days". I'm confuse it with the "two witnesses". Also, I believe I was listening to a preacher who said this about the "3 days". But here's where the main point of the topic comes from.

Revelation
13:3
One of his heads looked like it had been wounded fatally. His fatal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled at the beast.

13:4
They worshiped the dragon, because he gave his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"
 
I may have been wrong about the "3 days". I'm confuse it with the "two witnesses". Also, I believe I was listening to a preacher who said this about the "3 days". But here's where the main point of the topic comes from.
Phew... thanks! I thought I had missed something! lol No bragging, but I am fairly well-versed in eschatology. 8-)

Oh, to answer the OP question...

Cloning. That may be the "power" involved in "resurrecting' someone who may have died of a head wound.
 
vic said:
I may have been wrong about the "3 days". I'm confuse it with the "two witnesses". Also, I believe I was listening to a preacher who said this about the "3 days". But here's where the main point of the topic comes from.
Phew... thanks! I thought I had missed something! lol No bragging, but I am fairly well-versed in eschatology. 8-)

Oh, to answer the OP question...

Cloning. That may be the "power" involved in "resurrecting' someone who may have died of a head wound.

An interesting thought, but clones begin life as babies, don't they? :-?
 
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Ambient said:
This is a well known story in the bible. The antichrist is given a mortal wound and in 3 days he comes back to life at the amazement of the world. By what power is this ressurection acheived?
All of these powers are powers coming from God temporarily given to the antichrist. Remember that all things emanate from God whether the good things and the bad things and so are the powers of any kind.
 
Revelation 13:3
One of his heads looked like it had been wounded fatally. His fatal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled at the beast.

Our technology has made advancements of such that many have ‘died’ and been brought back to life. This appears to be more amazing than what we have now but probably of the same type only more advanced, where the beast will be declared dead, and regenerated, possibly with stem cells. Maybe there is something Satanic planned for this research. It is beastly enough.
:robot: (My sincere thanks to the opening poster who has enabled me to use this emoticon I have been been unable to work into any post thus far. :-D )
 
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scorpia said:
Ambient said:
This is a well known story in the bible. The antichrist is given a mortal wound and in 3 days he comes back to life at the amazement of the world. By what power is this ressurection acheived?
All of these powers are powers coming from God temporarily given to the antichrist. Remember that all things emanate from God whether the good things and the bad things and so are the powers of any kind.

AND, this is why I say that, saying such a thing, means that God Himself is helping an EVIL person perform EVIL acts and in so doing, DECEIVES many people. That doesn't sound like a righteous God to me!
 
unred typo said:
Revelation 13:3
One of his heads looked like it had been wounded fatally. His fatal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled at the beast.

Our technology has made advancements of such that many have ‘died’ and been brought back to life. This appears to be more amazing than what we have now but probably of the same type only more advanced, where the beast will be declared dead, and regenerated, possibly with stem cells. Maybe there is something Satanic planned for this research. It is beastly enough.
(My sincere thanks to the opening poster who has enabled me to use this emoticon I have been been unable to work into any post thus far. )

Perhaps so, but I HIGHLY doubt that very many people would see this sort of thing as amazing enough to actually worship him. That's the part of this that seems VERY unlikely. It may be very cool what happened to the guy, but for people, in this day and age, to worship anyone just because something like this happened, I find the probability extremely low.
 
Ambient wrote: Perhaps so, but I HIGHLY doubt that very many people would see this sort of thing as amazing enough to actually worship him. That's the part of this that seems VERY unlikely. It may be very cool what happened to the guy, but for people, in this day and age, to worship anyone just because something like this happened, I find the probability extremely low.

I believe the question was how was this done, and by what power. The power is the advancements in technology that are displayed in lying wonders as some kind of miracle by the false Messiah.
:robot:
I find it amazing that you don’t think people would worship such an perpetrator of deception when you have people beating a path to worship water stains on plate glass windows and virgin Mary shaped potato chips. People even now are hungry for visible manifestations of God or a Messiah. By the time of the Anti Christ, it will be much worse due to the great fears of the people caused by the disasters that are coming upon the earth.

:o
 
People even now are hungry for visible manifestations of God or a Messiah.
Hi unred, you're thinking along the same lines as I. Good post.

Anyone remember this from a movie called, The American President?

President Andrew Shepherd: Look, if the people want to listen to-...

Lewis Rothschild: They don't have a choice! Bob Rumson is the only one doing the talking! People want leadership, Mr. President, and in the absence of genuine leadership, they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone. They want leadership. They're so thirsty for it they'll crawl through the desert toward a mirage, and when they discover there's no water, they'll drink the sand.

President Andrew Shepherd: Lewis, we've had presidents who were beloved, who couldn't find a coherent sentence with two hands and a flashlight. People don't drink the sand because they're thirsty. They drink the sand because they don't know the difference.
 
I understand what you all are saying. I would agree with the fact that this may be a case of our technology being the cause of the "fatal wound being healed". It is far better than having God give the power to raise the dead of an evil man.

Having said that, this man MAY be celebrated, sure. Even revered. But as a "god"? Unlikely. That way of thinking, men being gods, thankfully went out long ago. I highly doubt it would happen again.
 
Ambient said:
I understand what you all are saying. I would agree with the fact that this may be a case of our technology being the cause of the "fatal wound being healed". It is far better than having God give the power to raise the dead of an evil man.
You still need to grasp that it is God that "allows" it to happen in such a way.

Having said that, this man MAY be celebrated, sure. Even revered. But as a "god"? Unlikely. That way of thinking, men being gods, thankfully went out long ago. I highly doubt it would happen again.
Nevertheless, this is what scripture tells us.

2 Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

2 Cor 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Cor 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Cor 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

If this subject really interests you and you dedicate serious time to study eschatology, you will come to this conclusion:

When antichrist reveals himself, many will be "duped" into believing he is "The Most High" One.
 
It is hard to even think that perhaps God would be the one that heals the deadly wounds and raises this person up.
However, I would like to share some experiences I have had. I tend to ..um...fellowship is not the right word....rub elbows with some extremely wicked folks. I have seen the Lord heal them a time or two. The Lord has shown me that there are a couple of things going on when He does this.

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After:
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First, the person that has been healed knows it is God that healed him. He now has something going on inside him that demands his attention. He knows that he knows that he knows ~ he is healed. It had to be God that did it. Therefore there is a God... it demands a response from him. Either to draw toward the Lord, or turn from Him and go deeper into darkness.

The second thing that happens, is that the person who has been healed, goes back into the enemy fortress, with his healing. It can not be hid. Can not be denied. His buddies then what to know what happened.
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Sometimes they believe that the newly healed person is an impostor and become suspicious of them, or rejected by them.


God is so cool.
 
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Ambient said:
scorpia said:
Ambient said:
This is a well known story in the bible. The antichrist is given a mortal wound and in 3 days he comes back to life at the amazement of the world. By what power is this ressurection acheived?
All of these powers are powers coming from God temporarily given to the antichrist. Remember that all things emanate from God whether the good things and the bad things and so are the powers of any kind.

AND, this is why I say that, saying such a thing, means that God Himself is helping an EVIL person perform EVIL acts and in so doing, DECEIVES many people. That doesn't sound like a righteous God to me!
You are just conceptualizing God and not learning directly from God. Even though evil things come from God, we are forwarned by God to refrain from doing evil things so that the Lord God may see our obedience or disobedience to Him should we follow or not follow His command vis a vis our own free will. God does not help an evil person do evil things but God uses evil things to punish, to make a wake up call, to warn, etc. those who sinned against God.
 
Ambient said:
I understand what you all are saying. I would agree with the fact that this may be a case of our technology being the cause of the "fatal wound being healed".
Be though as it may in your perception and understanding, the Lord God Jesus Christ teaches that all healings, wherever it may originates in accordance with our sight, come only from the Lord God Jesus Christ himself. Healing doesn't come from the technology use by men even today but only from God as all of us cannot live if not by the power of God - without God we are non-existent. Technologies and other modern day inventions of men which deals with healing are only vessels of God's healing power.

Ambient said:
It is far better than having God give the power to raise the dead of an evil man
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Are you aware that God will give this so called anti-Christ temporary powers which only belong to God - power to read the minds of the people and power to create things out of nothing infront of you (should you happen to be able to confront this anti-Christ in due time) or anybody? How much more is this power to raise someone from the dead? Call on and come to God for you to be able to arrive at the real TRUTH because the bible cannot teach us all these important things that we need to know to know God as God does exist in His own way.
 
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scorpia said:
You are just conceptualizing God and not learning directly from God. Even though evil things come from God, we are forwarned by God to refrain from doing evil things so that the Lord God may see our obedience or disobedience to Him should we follow or not follow His command vis a vis our own free will. God does not help an evil person do evil things but God uses evil things to punish, to make a wake up call, to warn, etc. those who sinned against God. [/color]

If God has a hand in promoting evil, then that is wrong! If God uses evil things to punish, it's wrong! I personally don't believe that God does, but if you think so, then I guess you are seeing God differently than me.
 
scorpia said:
Be though as it may in your perception and understanding, the Lord God Jesus Christ teaches that all healings, wherever it may originates in accordance with our sight, come only from the Lord God Jesus Christ himself. Healing doesn't come from the technology use by men even today but only from God as all of us cannot live if not by the power of God - without God we are non-existent. Technologies and other modern day inventions of men which deals with healing are only vessels of God's healing power.

So, the Liquid Bandaid that I put on a cut is God's healing to me? :-?
With that idea, that even our own technology comes from God, then the technology to create abortion comes from God.

scorpia said:
Are you aware that God will give this so called anti-Christ temporary powers which only belong to God - power to read the minds of the people and power to create things out of nothing infront of you (should you happen to be able to confront this anti-Christ in due time) or anybody? How much more is this power to raise someone from the dead? Call on and come to God for you to be able to arrive at the real TRUTH because the bible cannot teach us all these important things that we need to know to know God as God does exist in His own way.

Then it would be WRONG. To give powers to an EVIL being that will deceive millions. This wouldn't be the kind of God that I would want to come to!!!
 
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Ambient said:
If God has a hand in promoting evil, then that is wrong! If God uses evil things to punish, it's wrong! I personally don't believe that God does, but if you think so, then I guess you are seeing God differently than me.

It can be a dangerous thing to stand in judgment of God. That is to put yourself above Him, and declare yourself to be more righteous.

Get into His Word. That is where the truth can be found. Study. Do some word searches. You will find that God is a God of wrath. A God of vengeance. Who repays evil. He is a God of love and mercy toward His children.

Then you will understand that God is a righteous judge, that we live in a cursed world, and that He will separate the wicked from the righteous. There are degrees of punishment, just like there are degrees of rewards for His people.

Spend some time in prayer, and ask the Lord to reveal these things to you.

Blessings.

:lilangel:
 
scorpia said:
Be though as it may in your perception and understanding, the Lord God Jesus Christ teaches that all healings, wherever it may originates in accordance with our sight, come only from the Lord God Jesus Christ himself. Healing doesn't come from the technology use by men even today but only from God as all of us cannot live if not by the power of God - without God we are non-existent. Technologies and other modern day inventions of men which deals with healing are only vessels of God's healing power.

Ambient said:
So, the Liquid Bandaid that I put on a cut is God's healing to me?
Definitely because even the beating of your heart is caused by God himself.
Ambient said:
With that idea, that even our own technology comes from God,
We cannot call anything our own because all things come from God, even these technologies and ideas of men. We are just decoding them but God made them to be there even from the start. It all comes from God.

Ambient said:
then the technology to create abortion comes from God.
Yes indeed but God forwarned people from the very start to refrain from doing evil things, the sad part is that some people always indulge themselves from doing such things as a mere practice of men's free will. I know this will be too much for you to read but this is the truth and all that you can do to have these things confirmed is to call on and come to God and ask God himself for the truth and God will surely respond to you should you do this in the right way.

scorpia said:
Are you aware that God will give this so called anti-Christ temporary powers which only belong to God - power to read the minds of the people and power to create things out of nothing infront of you (should you happen to be able to confront this anti-Christ in due time) or anybody? How much more is this power to raise someone from the dead? Call on and come to God for you to be able to arrive at the real TRUTH because the bible cannot teach us all these important things that we need to know to know God as God does exist in His own way.

Ambient said:
Then it would be WRONG. To give powers to an EVIL being that will deceive millions. This wouldn't be the kind of God that I would want to come to!!!
This is under the Great Tribulations, a prelude to Judgment Day, and people has always the option to call on and come to God for them to know directly from God himself what to do to escape the threat of this so called anti-Christ. What would you want to do in your life in this time of the Great Tribulation, to always blame God and sit and worry everday for what seems to be wrong with God in your perception?
 
Re: By what power does Satan raise the antichrist from the d

Ambient said:
If God has a hand in promoting evil, then that is wrong! If God uses evil things to punish, it's wrong! I personally don't believe that God does, but if you think so, then I guess you are seeing God differently than me.

Gabbylittleangel said:
It can be a dangerous thing to stand in judgment of God. That is to put yourself above Him, and declare yourself to be more righteous.
Nice perception. God must really be over and above all things, That's how simple it is with God.


Gabbylittleangel said:
Get into His Word. That is where the truth can be found
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What about call on and come to God himself to get in touch with the Lord God? With God himself is where the truth only resides, no others. Wouldn't it be much better this way?
 
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